Talk:Westminster Presbyterian Church in the United States

Latest comment: 3 years ago by PeterR2 in topic Reconsider Deletion?

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Keep I have studied the ferment and churn of British and North American Presbyterianism for almost 40 years. Splitting, formation, and merging of denominations of various sizes is an important part of that history. Many small groups have come existence for a brief time but have lasting influence upon the English speaking Presbyterian and Reformed landscape. For example, the Reformed Presbyterian Church, Evangelical Synod (RPCES) came into existence in 1965, and disappeared in 1982 when they were received in to the larger Presbyterian Church in America (PCA). The RPCES was itself a merger of elements from the Bible Presbyterian Church (BPC) and the Reformed Presbyterian Church in North America (RPCNA). Though the RPCES remained a denomination for only 17 years, it is indisputable they have a continuing influence upon the PCA. Their brief history is essential to understanding American Presbyterianism.

I’m a minister of the denomination from which some of the WPCUS congregations come, the Orthodox Presbyterian Church (OPC). Yet, I recognize the WPCUS has taken an unique confessional position, reaffirming the original version not only of the Westminster Standards but also the original form of government and worship approved in England and Scotland in the 1640's. In this, they offer the possibility of union with other like minded groups on the basis of historic confessional Presbyterianism. Their similarity to older existing Scottish and Irish denominations also makes them notable. Whatever their future may be, their efforts should be noted by Wikipedia if it is to be a reliable and useful reference tool. Jglennferrell 17:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)J. Glenn FerrellReply

Reconsider Deletion? edit

Unlike when I contributed to the (archived) "delete" discussion in 2006, I can see no evidence that this denomination has any meaningful existence any more. Perhaps Brian Schwertley preaches to some people in Prosper, Texas (SermonAudio shows new audio sermons by him every week, but gives no street address for church services), but WPCUS certainly does not seem to be a micro-denomination with several locations across North America, like it was 15 years ago. I have not made any enquiries beyond Google searches, but the websites listed on Wikipedia are dead. --PeterR2 (talk) 09:58, 31 December 2020 (UTC)Reply

Copyright issues edit

A quick check of the main page of their website will reveal extensive similarities. After consulting the Internet Archive and our article's history, it's clear that our article already had much of the present wording when their website was completely different. I've accordingly concluded that their website has adopted an unattributed copy of our article. Nyttend (talk) 04:20, 25 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

Good job researching. Of course, the wikipedia text isn't under copyright - AFAIK they are perfectly entitled to use it. StAnselm (talk) 04:38, 25 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
Though it is rather amusing to think of organizations looking up wikipedia to find out who they are. StAnselm (talk) 04:39, 25 November 2013 (UTC)Reply
They are entitled to use it, but only with attribution, since Wikipedia contents are copyrighted. Nyttend (talk) 13:29, 25 November 2013 (UTC)Reply