Talk:Jun (entertainer)
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Chinese name
editBecause his Chinese name is 文俊辉 (Wen Junhui), that means 文 (Wen) is his last name. A few parts of the article use Wen instead of Jun/Junhui. Should it be used in this way? Or should we begin using Jun/Junhui instead? Mixsmirai (talk) 11:12, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Wen should be used per WP:SURNAME Evaders99 (talk) 20:34, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
- Cool cool. It just looked confusing to me but now it all makes sense. XD. Mixsmirai (talk) 07:10, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
Article restored
editWen Junhui was a child actor who played leading roles in multiple films and won the Hong Kong Film Directors' Guild's Best New Performer Silver Award in 2007, long before he became a member of Seventeen. As such, he easily satisfies the notability criteria per WP:ENTERTAINER. -Zanhe (talk) 06:07, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
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Requested move 29 September 2024
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Jun (entertainer) → Jun (Seventeen singer) – (alternative titles welcome, perhaps Jun (entertainer, born 1997), though that's not ideal either) – Currently ambiguous with Lee Jun-young (entertainer), who comes up first in a search for jun actor
. Hameltion (talk | contribs) 19:33, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Perhaps Jun (Chinese entertainer)? Generally group names are not used to disambiguate but nationalities would work here. orangesclub 🍊 21:35, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose - No need to disambiguate this article any further unless we're also planning to move Lee Jun-young (entertainer) to the "Jun" mononym which is currently not in the cards. A hatnote on this page would be sufficient to disambiguate per WP:ONEOTHER. RachelTensions (talk) 09:10, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Oppose: as per RachelTensions. 98𝚃𝙸𝙶𝙴𝚁𝙸𝚄𝚂 [𝚃𝙰𝙻𝙺] 09:18, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support. Per WP:DAB, disambiguation is about topics, regardless of whether the topic names are an exact match for the article title or not. Both of these people are entertainers who are widely known simply as "Jun". Pageviews show that neither topic is very dominant for readers. Including the name of the group is a conventional way to do this disambiguation, as in the WP:NCP examples Roger Taylor (Queen drummer) and Roger Taylor (Duran Duran drummer). — BarrelProof (talk) 16:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Including the name of the group wouldn't be appropriate here because we're disambiguating the word "entertainer", not two different musical groups (they're ambiguous because they're both singers & actors, not because they're both members of a group). "Jun (Seventeen entertainer)" would be kinda weird, no? RachelTensions (talk) 16:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- We could resort to the birth year, I suppose, although that's clearly undesirable. — BarrelProof (talk) 16:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'm curious why we'd opt for year of birth instead of nationality? Especially seeing as this Jun's acting career is based in China and the other's is in Korea, it could be expected that people reading up on them would be able to determine which they're after unlike with their years of birth which are close enough together that it isn't obvious. Examples of similar disambiguations:
- With that said, I'm leaning oppose based on Racheltension's hatnote suggestion. orangesclub 🍊 01:53, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Using nationality seems like a good idea to me; sorry for missing that. The hatnote-only approach would be WP:INCOMPLETEDAB and thus highly undesirable. — BarrelProof (talk) 06:23, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- We could resort to the birth year, I suppose, although that's clearly undesirable. — BarrelProof (talk) 16:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Including the name of the group wouldn't be appropriate here because we're disambiguating the word "entertainer", not two different musical groups (they're ambiguous because they're both singers & actors, not because they're both members of a group). "Jun (Seventeen entertainer)" would be kinda weird, no? RachelTensions (talk) 16:20, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Support per BarrelProof. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:08, 30 September 2024 (UTC)