Talk:Waster

Edits for non-stub

I have expanded the article somewhat in hopes of moving it away from the 'stub' class. More information will follow when time permits, along with more citation if desired. Xiliquiern 16:36, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

• Citations are always desired. Carom 16:46, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Further Edits

I have added an image and more information to the use section and am not finished quite yet. More information will be added on the general groups (historic martial art reconstruction) who use them, and the manner of use (progression in training from fundamentals to light sparring, to contact, moving on to steel weapons). Also, more about using steel in conjuction with the wasters for more realistic practice.

I would like someone not so aquainted with the concepts and subject to post from citation requests. Xiliquiern 14:59, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Pronounciation

Just to be clear- it's way-ster, not wah-ster, right? Old words, or words taken from specialized disciplines, can occasionally be counter-intuitive like that. --Toptomcat 01:16, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

That's correct, as far as I know in that I've never heard it pronounced any other way. Think waste + r, or like you said, way-ster.-- Xiliquiern 01:59, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

That probably ought to be put somewhere in the article. I'd do it, but I'm unfamiliar with phonetic notation. -Toptomcat 03:36, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I am a little less than familiar with it myself, but have added the IPA pronunciation to the article as best I can. --Xiliquiern 04:32, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

Assessment

Much improved, promoted to B-class, although quite a way from any further upgrade (as it were). Carom 23:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Citation Assistance

Does anyone know where the wooden practice weapons were created with the intent of eventually being “wasted", hence the term waster concept originates? I have found several sources that state this, but do not provide any form of primary source. Needless to say, its a little frustrating, as I would love to have this particular statement sourced and cited. -- Xiliquiern 02:22, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

An examination of the etymology of waste seems to suggest that the statement is correct. If you have access to the OED, you might check that, as it usually gives a fairly complete etymology. Carom 00:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Wow...the things I never knew existed. Thank a lot! I went ahead and cited that as a source - more information and specifics might be added later, but for now I think that's plenty. Thanks again! -- Xiliquiern 01:42, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem. It would be nice to discover the origin of the statement itself, although I suspect it's one of those things that appears so obvious that no-one bothers to cite their source when reproducing it. Carom 01:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

I imagine that's the sort of thing exactly. Nonetheless, this will certainly be ample. -- Xiliquiern 02:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Waster description.

the article states that a waster is lighter then a metal sword. I recall seeing a historical show in wich the host stated that the medieval waster for a long sword was in actuality twice the weight of a real sword in order to build up the muscles. Bloodkith (talk) 20:16, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Wasters weren't only for practice

The Roman Legionaires used their wasters to break up riots. The idea being less civilians would be killed by the use of wooden weapons. Khallus Maximus (talk) 15:47, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

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