Talk:Washington, Tyne and Wear

Name

The so called "possible origins" of the name Washington are wrong in here. It is well known amongst historians (especially local ones) that "Washington" is derived from the following Germanic componants: Hwæsinga- (the genitive plural declined form of "Hwæsing"¹; meaning a descendant of Hwæssa² (a family name)) and -tūn meaning estate. So the name in full means: "estate of the descendants of Hwæs" and nothing to do with washing!

Note:

• ¹ - Hwæsing is similar to Eorling/Erling meaning "descendant of an Earl"; similar to how a "halfling" is anything derived (descended) from an half.
• ² - Hwæssa is rendered in modern English as Wassa, a well known Swedish equivalent to the name is Vasa.

Therefore, I am going to change the article in order to reflect that.

The section on the etymology is highly prejudiced.

Gott wisst (talk) 01:14, 17 November 2011 (UTC)

If I understand the article correctly, the full literal meaning of the name is "Estate of the Descendants of Wheat Sheaf." Is that correct?Sylvain1972 (talk) 21:33, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

Recording of name

The person who first decided to "improve" this article has cited a record from 1096 claiming Washington was spelled Wasindone in this said record. Where is this record? Why is there no citation for it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SKC (talk • contribs) 21:34, August 25, 2007 (UTC)

George Washington

This web site claims George Washington was the 1st president of the united states. I'm from Washington and have always been quite proud of this fact. It is WRONG. George Washington was the fifteenth President of the United States. He was the first President of an Independant United States. Check it, I'm right.

Wow, just think how embarrased all of those scholars in America will be when they realise they've been wrong all these years! You should tell them! Anyway... not quite. Before him were 16 men who served as President of the Continental Congress, a post with completely different executive powers compared to the current position (they were essentially just chairmen) - and other than the fact they both contain the word "President", they are nothing alike.

Besides, using your logic, American independance was gained in 1776 therefore he was the fourteenth president of an 'Independent United States'. John the mackem 18:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Alex Kapranos

it says he was born in washington. but on his page it says almondsbury. make your mind up like. i live in washington and ive heard no talk of him ever being here Flashkick101 (talk) 00:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Oxclose

also im gonna go and make apage in Oxclose because it needs one. ill do it when i can be bothered Flashkick101 (talk) 01:01, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

It'll end up getting deleted, because there's not that much to write about. I wouldn't delete it but one the snobby lot that stare down these pages like hawks will. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.67.22.22 (talk) 11:24, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Sports Clubs

Washington Cricket Club

In 2008 Washington Cricket Club was named as the first Wisden Cricketer Cricket Club of the Year. The award recognised the work of the club in developing youth cricket in the town, expanding the club from two teams in 2000 to eleven in 2008. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Washy Dave (talk • contribs) 21:59, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Postcode district

I've fact-tagged the article where it says this: "although it has been in the Newcastle Upon Tyne postcode district since the 19th Century". I find it hard to see how this can be right as it stands. I would not know what postal delivery areas it has been in and what happened in the 19th century - hence the fact tag! - but I do know that postcodes as we now understand them were introduced in the 1960s and 70s. So whatever it was - the "Newcastle postal district" perhaps?? - it cannot be right to call it postcode, surely, when for nearly all readers this will mean the modern system of postcodes like NE1 1AA? Cheers, DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered (talk) 21:01, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

Social

There is a clear social divide between Geordies and Mackems in Washington. I'm from Washington and even though I understand it is now in the 'city of sunderland' I don't want to be known as a Mackem. When did it become part of Sunderland anyway?

DC link

http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/public/editable/banners/friendship/default.asp

Pyongyang??

I question this claim. Is there any proof at all? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.58.59 (talk) 22:37, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Toponymy

I have moved the following addition to the end of the Toponymy section here for discussion & possible use in correcting the section -

A Danish amateur scholar of toponymics begs to dissent: the Swedish Wikipedia notes: "The family name Vasa was first used towards the end of the 16th cent. and originates from the family's coat of arms, which was believed to depict a vase". That means that the rebel King Gustav 1st was NOT called Vasa during his lifetime. Hvas is a common Danish surname."Hvas" means sharp (English: whet). The Danish Etymological Dictionary mentions that the Old English version "hwæss" also means "sharp", not "wheat sheaf". It could be a nick name for a bold, quick man. Traces of massive Danish colonization (and hence toponymics) are to be found a few miles South of the Tyne. Many places there bear mixed Old English and Danish names, the first contributing with the common ending "tún", now "ton". It could be possible that Washington ("Hwæssingatún") also has such a mixed origin, while the pure Danish toponymics usually end in --by and -thorpe. Please refer to: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Skandinavische_Ortsnamen_in_England.jpg

originally posted by Vladwe (talk · contribs) at 19:31, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Keith D (talk) 17:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

External Link

External link: Washington.co.uk appears dead, it directs to a page with the words "This Account Has Been Suspended". I cannot edit this so bring it to another editor's attention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by VoltairSHK (talk • contribs) 20:11, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

I have marked it as dead for the moment. Keith D (talk) 22:41, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Keith. Link for "The Galleries" has changed to this one http://www.gallerieswashington.co.uk/ and "The Davy Lamp Folk Club" link is now this one http://www.davylampfolkclub.co.uk/ Please alter as I cannot edit. VoltairSHK (talk) 13:27, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

I have replaced the 2 links for you. Keith D (talk) 20:04, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

I am looking to add a website for washington www.wearwashington.co.uk how would i do this please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Howdyall (talk • contribs) 11:25, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

You could make the request here using the {{editsemiprotected}} template to bring attention to the edit request. Keith D (talk) 22:45, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

thanks Keith D, hope this works.

Replaced the link with washingtonlass. Stickee (talk) 12:25, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

http://www.wearwashington.co.uk New Washington Website, Local News Sport and Discussions

Not done: Per WP:External Links, this section is not a place to promote personal websites. Mato (talk) 15:56, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

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Edit request on 31 March 2012

I am saddened that information on my home town needs to be protected and that I am unable to make changes in person. I wish to support the accuracy of the entry by adding the following 3 citations to the information under George Washington Connection.

1. ... William de Wessyngton was a forebear[citation needed] of Citation would be from Burkes Peerage and Gentry, Guide to American Presidents. http://www.burkespeerage.com/articles/america/APF-WASHINGTON-1-FESS-nonsub.aspx

2. The present structure incorporates small parts of the medieval home in which they lived.[citation needed] Citation would be a refeerence to the National trust page http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/washington-old-hall/

3. ......is marked each year by a ceremony at Washington Old Hall.[citation needed]

Citation would be to Washington Old Hall Fact Sheet, Sunderland City Councel http://www.sunderland.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=6956&p=0

Regards John PC

JPCorr (talk) 15:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Done Thanks! Regards, Celestra (talk) 23:02, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Locked?

Can someone please explain why this page is permanently locked? I see no obvious reason for it such as a major disagreement or consistent vandalism. Even if this is the case, it's my understanding that only a temporary ban should be placed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.170.39.18 (talk) 19:22, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

You can always make an edit request on this page if you feel that changes are needed. Keith D (talk) 21:08, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 April 2014

At the 2001 census, the town had a population of 53,388.[1] This has increased to 67085 in the 2011 census. [www.citypopulation.de] 92.17.102.208 (talk) 14:46, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Done-- TOW  02:02, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 May 2014

Please change "2001 census" to "2011 census" (paragraph 3) 2.99.92.155 (talk) 17:08, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for pointing that out - Arjayay (talk) 17:12, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2014

In the "Transport" section...please remove " The presence of the railway was a major factor in Nissan selecting the Washington site, but the passenger service was a victim of the Beeching Axe less than two years later." It's very doubtful that Nissan had any plans to use a mothballed railway, but I could be wrong; however the Beeching axe wasn't 2 years later, but more than 20 years earlier so this is nonsense. 84.13.73.0 (talk) 15:05, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Done I have removed the sentence since it is unsourced. Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Mz7 (talk) 20:47, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 July 2014

In the Name section at the sentence, "Swedish Vasa being a more famous cognate", please change the link for the word "Vasa"

from

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/vasa

to

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Vasa

The intended reference is the Swedish noble family name Vasa, not a common word. The existing wiktionary link is completely misleading, and does not clarify an already obscure statement.

206.76.12.56 (talk) 15:00, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Done — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(e • t • c)} 17:08, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2015

• Education: Washington Village Primary School (needs to be added). The school closed due to the lack of students attending the school compared to the other schools within the town by the Education Board. Washington Village Primary School merged with Glebe Primary after a bid to save the school failed. After the two schools merged Glebe Primary was renamed Wessington Primary. - Former student of Washington Village Primary

There are several primary, secondary schools and colleges in the villages of Washington.

Primary schools (alphabetical order) Albany Village Primary Barmston Village Primary Biddick Primary School Fatfield Primary School George Washington School (formerly High Usworth) Holley Park Primary School John F. Kennedy Primary School Lambton Primary School Oxclose Primary Rickleton Primary School St. Bedes Primary School St John Boste RC Primary School St. Joseph's Roman Catholic Primary School Usworth Colliery Usworth Grange Wessington Primary – (formerly Glebe Primary)* Washington Village Primary - (Closed/Merged)* Eternal Hawks (talk) 02:38, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Amortias (T)(C) 00:18, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request 22 October 2018

WP:OLINK - "new town" appears linked twice in the lead. Please remove one set of brackets. Thanks.--86.29.222.228 (talk) 23:35, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

 Done Thanks for pointing this out. Keith D (talk) 00:47, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Keith D.--86.29.222.228 (talk) 00:54, 22 October 2018 (UTC)

Please correct as I can not as is a protected page

Please amend the John Washington ref "Though George Washington's great-grandfather John Washington left for Virginia from Hertfordshire" to read Northamptonshire as he lived in Sulgrave there see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulgrave & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington Thank you

 Done I have made change as no mention of Hertfordshire. Keith D (talk) 20:45, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 March 2021

Reference number 11 points to a defunct website. Change this reference to point to the current website of the Japanese School at Washington which is https://neengland-hoshuko.jimdofree.com/ Nwmadden (talk) 12:29, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

All set, thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:27, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

Name? Merge?

I think it be better under Washington, England as there is no other Washington settlement in England. Surely it be better then Washington, Tyne and Wear? DragonofBatley (talk) 21:15, 29 July 2022 (UTC)

@DragonofBatley: There is Washington, West Sussex also in England and WP:UKPLACE says to generally use the ceremonial county and not "England". Crouch, Swale (talk) 22:08, 29 July 2022 (UTC)