Talk:War of the Grand Alliance/Archive 1

What were they fighting over/about?

reason

What were they all fighting about??? what was the reason?

Louis XIV had gained a lot of power for France in his first two wars of his reign.He then set up his "Reunion Policy"...he claimed land as his, which was given to him to avoid war. (He used lawyers to justify the land gains.) While this was purely to defend France and Paris, it was seen by other countries as gaining a stronghold to attack them. When James II fled to France, William of Orange was made King. William was already King in the Netherlands, where the Dutch War had been. So as the power of France was now feared, he formed "The League of Ausburg". So when France invaded the Palatinate to support claims in Germany, William retaliated, and had most of Europe behind him! Sonic Mew 14:26, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

title

I was wondering what title people think this article should be at? It is pretty equally called either "War of the League of Augsburg," "War of the Grand Alliance," and "Nine Years War." I think my preference if for Nine Years War, but thought I'd check and see what others think. john k 23:37, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Well, given no response, I've moved it. Most recent accounts seem to use "Nine Years War". john k 04:46, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The official name seems to be "The Nine Years War". That's the what I used to get here. Sonic Mew 14:28, Jun 6, 2005 (UTC)

I strongly object. Every published work at my current disposal uses the "Grand Alliance" nomenclature. "Nine Years' War" is unnecessarily confusing with the guerilla conflict in Ireland. Albrecht July 3, 2005 23:30 (UTC)

Agree with John K and Sonic on this one. Almost all of my sources on the war, including John Lynn, David Chandler, William Doyle, Charles Spencer etc, etc all use the name Nine Years War. Raymond Palmer 01:38, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes it should be the Nine Years War as it is the most common name amongst modern historians, if this changes to something else in the future so should this article.

Some books that refer to the Nine Years War:

Warfare in the Seventeenth Century by John Childs

The New Cambridge Modern History

The Wars of Louis XIV, 1667-1714 by John A. Lynn

Carl Logan 17:39, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Hmm. If both Chandler and Lynn use Nine Years' War, then maybe there's something to be said for it. On Google, "War of the Grand Alliance" slightly edges past "Nine Years War" -Tyrone 27,200 to 26,900 results. There's still the problem of having to dab Tyrone's rebellion, but I gather we should go with the leading historians on the subject. Albrecht 18:17, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I wonder how many hits wikipedia adds to the War of the Grand Alliance search? Carl Logan 18:32, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

So we have reached an agreement to change it to the Nine Years War, if no one has any objections I will change it tomorrow. Carl Logan 13:04, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

No I have no objections. I have nearly finished re-writing this article (should be ready by next weekend). All my modern sources - and there's plenty of them - all use the term Nine Years War. Raymond Palmer 13:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Couldn't move it to Nine Years' War, most but in a Wikipedia:Requested moves Carl Logan 17:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Opening Moves

Does anyone else find the discussion in the last two paragraphs of the opening moves confusing? I find the wording difficult, but I do not want to edit because I am not sure exactly what the author is trying to communicate. It also seems a little out of place to begin with a factual account of troop movements and follow up with a commentary on how the behavior of armies has changed. Or do I misinterpret the text?

I agree, and what is the great war that he speaks of, is it the 30 years war?MesMaShnow 23:13, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

The Thirty Years' War is correct, I think; I suspect those paragraphs are largely unchanged from the 1911 Britannica, which explains their unusual tone. Kirill Lokshin 23:16, 6 November 2005 (UTC)