Talk:Wang Leehom/Archive 1

Archive 1

He learnt piano at age 18

Evidence: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC5IZKsx4nQ

• Uh...since that vid's in Mandarin, here's my translation of the relevant section of the video:
  • Host: What's your strongest instrument?
  • WLH: Actually, right now piano is gaining on violin. Because, because...
  • Host: Oh, violin is originally your strongest instrument?
  • WLH: Right, violin is originally my strongest instrument.
  • Host: So then all of the other [this part is hard to translate, but he basically is saying "instruments good for playing in bands" or something to that effect] you started later?
  • WLH: Right, right, that was comparatively late; I started in my teen years.
  • Host: So the instruments that you've really studied/learned have been violin, and piano?
  • WLH: I only started piano at age 18, so that's why I say that it's gaining on violin.

Zekintha 06:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

That's not true, Leehom started learning piano when he was really young... Another interview he said that he wanted to play the violin like his older brother, but the teacher told him he was too young and to come back in a few years. He said at first he hated the piano, but learned to love it over time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaidel (talk • contribs) 21:45, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Actually, he started learning the piano when he was 8, 2 years after beginning the violin. I think he dropped it after some time, and concentrated solely on the violin. He picked it up back in college when he discovered that the piano was good for composing, and that was when he formally studied the piano, which may have been why he said he didn't start until he was 18...by that, he meant he didn't start formal lessons until then.Aidyl51 05:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Professionalism

Please use his family name "Wang" instead of "Lee-hom" unless you are distinguishing between members of his family. It's unprofessional to refer to him as if you're an intimate of his in an encyclopedia article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Penser (talk • contribs) 21:29, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

Connect to other languages

If anyone knows how to edit the page so the English version is linked to the other versions (French, Thai, Chinese, Japanese) that would be a good idea. Penser 20:59, 6 January 2007 (UTC)penser

Copyright Violations

I reverted the page to what I hope is a pre-violation form (the June 11th entry).

66.67.120.32 01:59, 18 June 2007 (UTC)Dan

Perfect Pitch?

I could've sworn that I've been to this article before it was cleaned out, and back then the article claimed that he has perfect pitch. Does anyone know if there's any evidence of this fact? Zekintha 07:00, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the information is provided in the Us And Canada Fan Club. jackietang33 08:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Do you mind if I put it back up?jackietang33 08:34, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind jumping into this discussion, but here's a YouTube video, if it helps. (Rikayla 05:34, 23 June 2007 (UTC))

Merge Articles

Why don't someone merge http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee-Hom_Wang_discography to this page.

The discography page when included in this article is way too long. The length of the section prompted the need to move it to another page so we can utilize the space on the main article. Arsonal 06:36, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

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His Spoken Languages

Should the many languages that he speaks (both conversationally and fluently) be included? I've seen it on other Wiki articles for other singers. He knows Mandarin and English fluently.. also Japanese, Cantonese conversationally, and I heard he's learning French, but I don't know what other languages he knows. I heard him sing a few lines in Hokkien in his new album, so he might also know that. Khanny045 17:22, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

He knows English and Mandarin fluently, Japanese and Cantonese conversationally, and he took French all through his middle and high school years. As for Hokkien, he says it's something he wants to master one day.Aidyl51 05:00, 3 December 2007 (UTC)Aidyl51

Chinked out?

Did Lee-Hom really come up with this? While I respect Lee-Hom for what he's done, this is a derogatory (almost like saying "race" music back in the early history of Western pop culture) and childish term. Can't somebody come up with a better and/or more politically correct term? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.93.12.40 (talk) 03:46, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually he did. In his album 'Xin Zhong de Ri Yue', on the inside of it, in English, he talks about it. Here's some of what it said:

"Then, I coined the term "chinked-out". Derived from the historically derogatory racial slur "chink", used to put-down Chinese people, "chinked-out" repossesses the word, turns its negative connotations upside-down, and uses them as material to fuel the new sound of this music". Since I own the album, if anyone here would like me to scan the inside of it as proof, I'll be more than glad to. - Hedatari 02:50, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

"One of his most notable contributions to Mandopop was the introduction of "chinked-out" music, a genre heavily influenced by traditional Chinese music."

try reading that sentence aloud with a straight face, go ahead I dare ya —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.170.68.234 (talk) 07:47, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

why does someone keep deleting the link to the uk fan club forum?

Why does someone keep deleting the link to the uk fan club forum? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.199.224 (talk) 22:38, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Actually the question is Why should that link be there? Would you care to state what information can be got from that link that would justify its inclusion in this Wikipedia article. (See WP:EL) William Avery (talk) 22:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

It is to be listed in the external links section. The fan site though very new has plenty of factually correct information about Leehom and his carear and I see no reason why it should not be allowed to be listed with the other fan sites. What justifies them or indeed any of the external links to be on there and not the uk one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.199.224 (talk) 23:59, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:17, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Alexander Wang is also a fashion designer.

thought yall ought to know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.215.88 (talk) 01:58, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Suing Pritam

Hello, I am an Indian and I cant thank Lee-Hom Wang enough for suing that copy cat Pritam for all his plagiarism. Thanks and good wishes to all his fans. I am invariant under co-ordinate transformations (talk) 01:48, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

too many links

The external links to the various fanclub sites are relevant, but they do not belong in a wikipedia article. All fanclub site links should be removed. Heroeswithmetaphors (talk) 04:00, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Lee-Hom Wang#Heroes of Earth World Tour

I don't really see why that section is included in the article. Is there something special that makes this world tour more notable than any of his others? If so, it is not currently addressed, and should be. If not, then the article should either cover all of his tours in this kind of detail, or none of them.

Furthermore, I assume this information (ie, the specific list of venues and dates) would be available at Wang's official website or someplace like that; if it is, it would make more sentence just to link there, rather than give this list of specific dates and venues.

Can someone give me a legitimate reason to keep this table and section in the article? If not, I will probably remove the table and section soon, and take the single sentence about how the tour was his 3rd tour and merge it into the Career section. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 21:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Hmm... you're right. I suppose it might be considered special in that it's an international tour? But that could be mentioned in a sentence or two (as opposed to an entirely new section) in the career section. - rairakku(talk to me) 22:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Yeah...whoever originally wrote this section said that it was his third international tour, so that alone shouldn't make it special...anyway, I think no matter how special it is, all it needs is a sentence or two in the career section, as you said, and not a whole table detailing everything about the tour. Rather than deleting it outright, though, I think I might move that table to Heroes of Earth, as it is somewhat more relevant there. I'll wait a day or so to see if anyone else voices concerns. (Although, the way my Wikipedia luck works, I could wait a week and hear nothing, but then 10 seconds after I remove the information someone will show up and freak out.) —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 01:13, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

That works a lot better than what I had in mind (hide the table until someone actually does freak out so we can get more people to discuss...). I say just go ahead with the move; it makes a lot more sense than keeping it on the main page. - rairakku(talk to me) 02:48, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Album Chinese names

I am removing Chinese names of albums that have Wikipedia articles. This is a standard that was used in Jay Chou and S.H.E for their promotion to featured article. Eventually, when all of Lee-Hom's albums have their own articles, we will be able to remove all of them. It removes the clutter of having to use the Chinese language templates for each set of Chinese character inline with text (as I have done for individual songs). Arsonal (talk) 05:29, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I wasn't active in the Jay Chou or S.H.E. FACs so I'm not aware of the discussion that went on (I glanced at the Jay Chou FAC but it seemed pretty short and I couldn't find anything about this; maybe it's squirreled away in a subpage somewhere), but at first glance it seems somewhat counterintuitive to me. As these are Chinese albums and (as far as I know) are most widely known by their Chinese names, I would imagine that the Chinese titles are more useful in the text than the English ones. (The only instances I can think of in which they're maybe known as commonly, or more commonly, by the English names than by the Chinese, is with Shangri-La/心中的日月 and some of the early ones. Unfortunately, this is all the kind of stuff I doubt anyone can find a source for, it's all just our hunches.) I personally don't find the Chinese text cluttersome; the only problem I can see with it is for people who don't have rendering support, but that would be a problem whether or not we included this inline stuff.

Does WP Chinese-language entertainment have a standard for this stuff, or a place where it's been discussed? —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 05:52, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't remember if there was discussion specifically on this topic. I believe our guiding principle for writing articles like this was that this is an English language Wikipedia; therefore, there should not be an excess amount of Chinese characters in the article. This is in agreement with the Manual of Style guideline on using Chinese characters: "to help establish a simple and clean appearance, if a term is Wikified and has an article, do not provide characters or romanization again". Arsonal (talk) 06:28, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Oh, ok. I never looked at that policy page before. Anyway, I don't think I agree with the policy, but since it is the policy then I can live with it; keeping a standard appearance from one article to another is the most important thing. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 06:30, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

SAT score?

I have to admit I was somewhat relieved to see the 1600 SAT thing removed here...i see that factoid pop up all over the place but I've never been sure if it's true or not, it's mostly something that comes up on Facebook fan clubs, people's blogs, etc., so for all I know people are just copying one another's bad information. But anyway, just in case, I figured I should look around and see if there is a good source out there. I've gone through about 10 pages of Google results and so far the only thing I've found that isn't a blog post, fanclub, or some random idiot, is this:

• "Cream of the pop". Time Out Beijing. Retrieved 17 January 2009.

It appears to be written by the website's staff, rather than just randos, which is the reason I thought it might be half-decent. But I'm not sure if it's good enough to warrant putting the 1600 SAT "fact" back into the article. Any thoughts? Politizer ^talk/_contribs 01:30, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

The only way to be completely sure would be to find a primary source. To be honest, that source is about as reliable (or unreliable) as the fact stated in the Goldsea American Daily reference. Putting the fact on the article should not be for the sake of putting as much information on the article as possible. The fact should support a statement or try to tell something about him. The reason I see such a fact (and the one about him being a valedictorian) being useful is when we say that Leehom was successful academically and could have been like his older brother, but he chose to turn to the entertainment industry and was still successful. Arsonal (talk) 14:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

Second TalkAsia Interview

Lee-Hom was in a second TalkAsia interview this past Wednesday. The interview can be watched here. Arsonal (talk) 15:09, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

where is the discog?

if this guy is such a major singer, does he warrant at least a rudimentary discog list like all other artist on wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.254.83 (talk) 17:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Leehom Wang discography. It's linked from the Musical style section. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 17:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Personal Information

Why is there no personal information section on him? Nearly all actors and singers have this and I think Lee-hom should too. Is it because he's not very open about it? But still, I think there is sufficient information to include this section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.110.189 (talk) 04:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

shouldnt the picture be updated by now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hwon074 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Leehom Wang's profile pic

Can someone please change the profie picture of leehom wang. It should be updated by now. I would do it if i knew how to.

Thanx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hwon074 (talk • contribs) 15:26, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

What's wrong with the image that's up now?

Keep in mind that, because of Wikipedia's image policy, we can only use images that are free (i.e., not copyrighted). And we're not Wang's personal website or anything, so there's no need to "update" the photo on a regular basis. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 17:49, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

What's wrong is that it's promoting a dandruff product. It would be better to get a pic of Leehom in a neutral setting. ralmin (talk) 12:50, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

agreed! He is no longer their ambassador as of this year so picture must change.

change profile picture

how do u change the profile pic?

You need to find a picture that doesn't violate copyrights. If you continue uploading copyright violations, you will be blocked. rʨanaɢ (talk) 03:06, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Rjanag,i uploaded a picture that belongs to me and you deleted it citing violation. what's up with that? if this carries on, i will be opening a dispute and inviting a third party to be involved in this. Please justify why it was deleted. I'm changing it to reflect the current reality. The profile pic should be in a neutral setting. The current photo depicts him promoting for head and shoulders but he is no longer the ambassador for the brand as of this year so it is a misrepresentation. This argument has been brought up before in the above discussion by another user. so stop deleting it and threatening to block someone unless you can come up with a better explanation as to why the picture should misleadingly remain.Hwon074 (talk) 10:59, 27 April 2010 (UTC)hwon074

Wrong. You uploaded a picture that is clearly marked as all rights reserved. Read Wikipedia's guidelines on copyright; I have told you several times to do so and you clearly have not.

As for your complaints about the current picture, the "other user" who brought it up before was yourself. I don't know why you seem to have an obsession with what advertisements Wang has been in, but the current picture shows what he looks like and there's no reason for you to be consistently violating copyrights over it.

There are other problems with your image, too. It's blurry and low-resolution. Wikipedia articles tend to use the clearest picture available for the lede. rʨanaɢ (talk) 13:25, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Fine, I relent in the endorsement section. However as for the picture,you still haven't addressed the problem. The picture shows something that does not currently hold. i have emailed wikipedia and they have replied stating that i have copyright over this picture. I will be changing it as you seem to be the only one who wants to keep the current head and shoulders picture. This is to the detriment of Wang as he does not endorse it anymore. His representative picture of wikipedia should be one of a neutral setting and not pertinent to any product. Due to wikipedia being accessed globally, such misinformation can have major effects. I have as much right to change it as you keep it and so far i have someone else backing me up in the prevous message that it should be changed.- hwon074

Don't lie; it's not going to win you any friends on this project. If you had really e-mailed OTRS then someone would have added an OTRS tag to the image page, and that has not happened. The picture is not yours, it is going to be deleted. rʨanaɢ (talk) 02:22, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

There's no need to lie I will show you a copy of it.Thank you for submitting a photo for use in a Wikipedia article. I would like to confirm that you are actually indeed the copyright holder. Under the copyright law of most countries, the copyright of the image belongs exclusively to the photographer or his/her employer and can only be transferred via signed written statement or operation of law (e.g., inheritance). If the copyright has not been explicitly transferred to you, then I will need to get the licensing release from the appropriate person. If you do not know who the copyright holder is and/or cannot contact this person, then I'm afraid we cannot use this photo. I apologize for the inconvenience, but it is a policy of the Wikimedia Foundation to strongly respect creators' copyrights.

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i have reuploaded the picture and placed it under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 as recommended above. I don't need to win anyone here. I'm doing it for his and my commercial interests- hwon074.

You've completely misunderstood Andrew's message. In saying "I would like to confirm that you are indeed the copyright holder", he is not saying you're the copyright holder; he's asking for confirmation. rʨanaɢ (talk) 06:10, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Another user at commons has caught you in your lie. Consider this your final warning. If you violate the image policy or copyright policy again I will ask to have you indefinitely blocked from both Wikipedia and Commons. rʨanaɢ (talk) 07:18, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Cantonese name?

Why is his name given in Jyutping (Cantonese)? Mandarin (pinyin) makes sense since it's increasingly "universal," plus he speaks the language and his parents came to the US from a Mandarin-speaking territory. His ancestors are from Zhejiang, which does not use Cantonese. He apparently speaks some Cantonese, but unless he has direct ties to Hong Kong, Guangzhou or Macao it seems unnecessary. I don't think we need to list the pronunciation of every person's name in every language they speak....--达伟 (talk) 09:07, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Regarding China-related actors and singers that have no relation to Guangdong, Hong Kong or the Cantonese language whatsoever, jyutping is utterly irrelevant and is to be removed on sight, refer to Talk:Jay Chou#Infobox nonsense. -- 李博杰  | —Talk contribs email 11:47, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Lomomars, 14 August 2011

Hi, Here is one of the main profile pic before which i uploaded and owned the copyright. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Leehom_Wang_at_Harbin_Film_Festival.jpg I am actually staff from Leehom Wang's office trying to use the picture that we suggest. I talked with another admin last time to discuss that if it can be the main pic. It is given the OTRS as ticket #2011012310006044. So i just wonder that please change this pic to the current one, or it should be the close-up one only. Here's another one uploaded file which is similar with the original one but more close up. Please kindly check if it's approved or there's any other suggestions. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wang_Leehom_at_Harbin_Film_Festival.jpg Thanks! Lomomars (talk) 11:19, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Done. I normally don't respond to requests to change the profile picture, but the one up when you posted this request was a copyright violation. rʨanaɢ (talk) 12:26, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi admin from wiki, Here's me again. Thanks for replacing the profile pic. There's a question again that if it's approved to add the caption of this pic.(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Leehom_Wang_at_Harbin_Film_Festival.jpg) If it also needs to make an edit request here, can you please confirm the approval to add the caption for the main profile pic as "Wang after winning "Best New Director" at Harbin Film Festival January 16, 2011" ? Thanks!Lomomars (talk) 18:36, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

The caption was already in the article as a duplicate photo. I removed the duplicate and moved the caption into the infobox with some tweaks. —Arsonal (talk + contribs)— 19:21, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 14 August 2012

Leehom Wang should also be listed as Wang Leehom, last name first, which is standard practice for Chinese names. It is his order of preference backed up by his official website, "wangleehom.com".

Bobbychang (talk) 20:52, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Wang Leehom redirects here. If there is something more you want changed, please be specific (please change X to Y).RudolfRed (talk) 03:30, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 10 November 2012

Please add to the first paragraph under Chinked-out (2004–06), before "Shangri-La was released on the last day..." that "The music video for the song "Ai cuo" features fellow Chinese pop star Vanness Wu." Reference: "The Expression of Chineseness and Americanness in Chinese Popular Music" http://muse.jhu.edu/login?auth=0&type=summary&url=/journals/asian_music/v043/43.2.chen.html

This is an alternative source that lists the paper. I'm the author and can email a copy to moderators. http://asianmusic.skidmore.edu/contindex/v43n2.htm

Thank you.

Chasethehoneybee (talk) 15:03, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Do you have a source that is not behind a paywall? —KuyaBriBri^Talk 23:28, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

 Not done; we can't confirm the source provided, and a quick search failed to turn up an alternative source. -- Dianna (talk) 23:23, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Nationality and Taiwanese/Chinese politics

I was wondering why his origin is put as Taiwan under this category. Origin originally doesn't mean the place where a person starts his career and it would confuse people about the place of origin, which is his birthplace. Origin should be USA here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.87.100.112 (talk) 09:24, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

I have had to correct Wang's nationality several times now. He was born and raised in the US, so he is clearly an American. Despite this, this fact has been deleted several times and various contributors have attempted to inject what I assume are Chinese and Taiwanese politics into this. If you want to call him Taiwanese or Chinese, please provide some proof. Point to some link or copy of his passport that shows he is either Taiwanese (ROC) or Chinese (PRC). Otherwise, stop changing it please.

His background is Taiwanese. Jackietang33 00:28, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm aware that his parents are from Taiwan, but unless you can point to some evidence that he is a citizen of either Taiwan (ROC) or PR China then you can't claim that he is Taiwanese. Penser 08:28, 4 January 2007 (UTC)penser

Taiwan's official name is the Republic of China (中華民國), so he should be considered Chinese. Just because I live, say, in the state of California, doesn't mean my nationality is Californian. Taiwan is a region within the Republic of China. That is also not to say that Wang Lee-Hom is even a national of ROC, because he was born in the US. Serving in the ROC army will automatically revoke US citizenship, since the US law automatically revokes American citizenship when one of its nationals serves in a foreign army. Do you have proof that he was not born in the US? Unless ROC decides to rename itself Taiwan, he should be considered Chinese as such, or at least Chinese-Taiwanese American. Also, what proof do we have that he is 本省人? I believe both his parents' parents were involved in ROC politics on mainland China. I will locate a source (may be in Chinese) that will corroborate my findings. AmasianCrasian (talk) 17:48, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Wang is Zhejiangnese, which is Chinese, not aborigine. See http://8.zyu8.com/2008/0808/117861618875_1.htm. AmasianCrasian (talk) 17:57, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Wang is a Taiwanese American, but his nationality isn't Taiwanese because he holds only the American passport. Is that what you're saying?--Jerrypp772000 19:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Earlier edits had him labeled simply as a "Chinese" or "Taiwanese" singer. Penser 03:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC)penser

Taiwan+chinese is fine I guess. 60.241.254.111 06:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Taiwanese implies he's an aborigine. Do you have a source in Chinese or English that claims this? I believe I have a source that his parents are 外省人 and I will try to find it. AmasianCrasian (talk) 17:38, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

He is a ROC national according to the Nationality Law of the Republic of China. Given where he's based, simply "American" is a misleading label.--Jiang 06:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Jiang, you need to reconsider that statement. My parents were born in Taiwan, Republic of China, but I don't consider myself a Republic of China national. Under US law, anyone who serves in a foreign army automatically loses his American citizenship. 24.251.64.102 (talk) 09:34, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I've taken the liberty of changing his descriptor to American-born Chinese. He was born in the United States and it's guaranteed at the very minimum he is American. His parental ancestry is from 浙江; when I have time, I will try to look for the source. It was in 世界日報 (WorldJournal.com) a reputable Chinese-language newspaper. He's not an aborigine, so to say he is Taiwanese is incorrect. Taiwan's official name is 中華民國 (Republic of China), and Taiwan is a province of the Republic of China. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AmasianCrasian (talk • contribs) 08:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

"Chinese" can be misleading to some people. The popular term that everyone knows is to refer as "Taiwanese" when you're talking about people who have ancestrial history in Taiwan/Republic of China. It doesn't mean he's aboriginal, but it doesn't mean he's not ethnically Chinese.

"Taiwanese" does not imply aborigine.

Were his parents born and raised in Taiwan, or did they just stop over briefly on their way to America from China as many of the group that came to Taiwan with Chiang Kai-shek did? If the latter, then it makes sense to describe his "Chinese ancestry". On the other hand, if they were born and raised in Taiwan and identify closely with that country, then it may make more sense to talk about his Taiwanese parents.

Either way, unless he has become a Taiwanese or Chinese citizen and revoked his American citizenship we should not be saying "American-born Taiwanese" or "American-born Chinese". It is common amoung immigrants from Taiwan to refer to their children as "American-born Taiwanese" or "American-born Chinese" depending on their political persuasion, but the term is considered offensive by many of those children and by many Americans in general. "Taiwanese American" (no dash) is often used with far fewer people considering it offensive. I don't know of anyone who would be offended by "American of Taiwanese ancestry". If he has embraced dual citizenship by getting passports from both countries, we could say he is "Taiwanese-American" or "American-Taiwanese" (with dash). Readin (talk) 23:23, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Please describe him as 'Taiwanese American' for simplicity. Saying that he has Chinese ancestry can confuse people into thinking that he is from mainland China (the fact that he held the torch in the Beijing Olympics can add to the confusion) I had to correct that several times too because somebody keeps trying to implicitly imply that he is PRC Chinese. Please be reasonable. If you say that he is 'Chinese' we'll have to change all the Taiwanese singers to 'of Chinese ancestry' then. Its ridiculous. Grow up and be fair. Face the facts. He is Taiwanese. 'Taiwanese American' NOT 'American of Chinese ancestry'. 'Taiwanese' = Republic of China = Nationalist Chinese. Its implied. Thanks.

Leehom's parents are from the Republic of China, otherwise known as Taiwan. 'Taiwanese' = a citizen of the Republic of China. Please do not assume that he is 'Chinese' as 'Chinese' = People's Republic of China. Two Chinas. Leehom is from the ROC. Hence, for convenience we say that he is Taiwanese. Every fan knows this. His website says this. Stop trying to say that he is from mainland China. He is Taiwanese. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aznassassin (talk • contribs) 15:57, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

What website? If the website is actually controlled by him and calls him "Taiwanese", then that should settle the issue. Readin (talk) 17:54, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

The article doesn't say anything about his affiliation to the PRC. The article says he's of "Chinese ancestry", which links to Chinese people and doesn't say anything about the PRC. Saying that his ancestors were Chinese people doesn't mean that he's "from" the PRC; it says nothing at all about affiliations to PRC, ROC, or any other places where people of the Han ethnicity live. So drop this "stop trying to say he's from mainland China" and "somebody keeps trying to imply that he's PRC Chinese"—no one said that. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 18:12, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

And by the way, the bio on his website says nothing about ancestry, ethnicity, citizenship, or anything else. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 18:25, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

In the olympics section, it mentions him as being one of the few "Chinese ..."

He's American. Nothing else. His nationality is American. You guys are debating his ethnicity.

My understanding is that he's "外生人“ －but his parents are from Taiwan while his grandparents are from China. I'm really not sure what the debate here is about. He's American. Honestly, their all Chinese American. People that are debating on whether someone is taiwanese american really need to drop the debate. It's in nobody's interest for Taiwan to be completely independent and even the ROC politicians know that. Drop the Taiwan / Chinese debate please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.244.182 (talk) 23:48, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Just to add onto his 外省人 status, he confirms/implies that his grandparents are from the Mainland in this interview. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh3UX_nJeKE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.49.40 (talk) 13:51, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I am planning to change "an American ..." in Line 1 to "a Chinese-American ...". He is Chinese-American in the following exact sense: Chinese American, American nationality and Chinese ethnicity. The comments surrounding this edit point in the markup indicate that I should post here before changing, as apparently years ago this was the subject of an edit war. I'm not sure there's still any active discussion about this issue here, but if anyone does prefer to discuss, please feel free to revert my change if you think there's a need to, and I would be happy to discuss further. Thank you. Leekaiinthesky (talk) 07:30, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2013

Lee-Hom comes from a high pedigree of academics; his father is a pediatrician, his brother is a doctor now residing in Chicago, his younger brother is a student at MIT and most of his relatives are doctors. Like much of his family, Lee-Hom had considered pursuing a medical career. Having been high school valedictorian and receiving a perfect score for his SATs, he was accepted into Princeton and Yale.  However, at the last minute Lee-Hom realized his true passion was for music. Amidst criticism from his family, Lee-Hom decided to attend Williams College to pursue his dream to become a musician.

EditorV (talk) 17:17, 21 December 2013 (UTC)

• Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. Technical 13 (talk) 04:18, 29 December 2013 (UTC)

References

Spelling of his name

The English spelling of his name in the article is not currently correct and should be changed (including the English article title, itself.) Although it is perhaps more common for transliterated Chinese given names to contain a hyphen, and I think this is why it shows up currently as "Lee-hom" in this article, he spells his name Wang Leehom (Leehom is one word and is not joined by a hyphen.) This has been the case for several years at least, as documented in the following:

• His official website http://www.wangleehom.com/ - his name is spelled "Leehom" whenever it is written in English there.
• The credits to the 2007 film Lust, Caution list him as WANG LEEHOM.
• The cover art, production credits and Jin's rap lyrics and the image of his written signature in the Thank You's section in the liner notes of the 2005 album Heroes of Earth show "Leehom."
• Same for the Thank You's section in the liner notes of the 2003 album Unbelievable.
• The recent (Jan. 2009) CNN Talk Asia feature has his name as "Wang Leehom" http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/01/09/ta.wangleehom/index.html#cnnSTCText , something he would have cleared.

It looks like this has unfortunately been the subject of an edit war in the past but it has not been discussed explicitly, so I thought I'd get this on the Talk page and leave some time before going through with the edit. --SilkRoadEdge (talk) 05:16, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I don't have a problem with that. The main reason I reverted these changes in the past is because the person did them without discussion and wrapped them up with other controversial changes such as changing "American-born Taiwanese" to something else (I don't remember what).

We should consider, though, consistency with other Wikipedia articles. The standard for all Chinese artists is to put their name American-style (given, then family) if they have an English 'nickname'—for example, Jay Chou, Angela Chang, Cecilia Cheung, etc. This is probably even more the case for Wang, who is originally American. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 11:35, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. You make a good point regarding the order of names and other Wikipedia articles about Chinese artists, although as you point out, these are artists who use English 'nicknames" (Jay, Angela, Cecilia, etc.) The true analogue in Wang's case would be if he went by 'Alexander Wang,' which of course he doesn't. I would say Leehom is not an English nickname. Nonetheless, maybe the thing to do is change the article title and other instances of his full name generally to "Leehom Wang," in order to keep consistent form with other (not exactly analogous) Wikipedia articles. But perhaps the first few words of the article could clarify it with "Leehom Wang (or Wang Leehom)" - or something along those lines. --SilkRoadEdge (talk) 00:49, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

It would be a good idea to post a message on Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese) trying to get people to come comment here. I personally don't have strong feelings on the matter, but I agree that the first sentence of the article should have a brief clarification. rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 02:51, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for doing this. I think the name spelling issue has never been addressed since the article was created, although the general consensus has always been to list 'Leehom' before 'Wang'. The references you have provided are very useful. Arsonal (talk) 06:24, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

In addition to the sources documented at the top of this section, his name also appears as Wang Leehom on official pages such as https://www.facebook.com/leehom and http://www.youtube.com/user/officialwangleehom. In accordance with WP:NC-ZH, family-name first should be the rule except when another ordering is "more familiar" – in this case, an exception is not warranted. I am posting to this talk page before making the move, because there is a comment in the markup not to change his name without first discussing on the talk page. However, this seems to be a remnant from a discussion many years stale. I will also be adding the relevant chinese-name tag. If anyone has strong feelings opposed to mine, I welcome further discussion. Leekaiinthesky (talk) 09:10, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 1 March 2018

Change "Taiwanese-American" to "Chinese-American" Kievew (talk) 01:49, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. RudolfRed (talk) 02:27, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2018

Please Change "Taiwanese-American" to "Chinese-American".

Going back to the previous discussion, we need to take away the politics. Being "Chinese-American" is in reference to Leehom's heritage being Chinese, not that he's from China or Taiwan. To settle the argument, I'd like to reference Leehom's Bio on his official website as support, and can pull other sites that reference it but the official Bio should be the most reliable source. --Kievew (talk) 03:30, 25 April 2018 (UTC)Kievew

References

 Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Waddie96 (talk) 11:08, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Please kindly explain steps to establish "consensus". If the information on Wiki is erroneous, it should be corrected based on the most reliable resource. If correct information is provided on the subject/person's official website, then that should be enough reference/consensus to update and correct the error on Wiki.Kievew (talk) 02:28, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

 Not done: The issue here is that something such as nationality is not an objective fact, like the number of children that someone has is. It can be subjective and vary depending on what definition is used (this is made evident in the ten pages of debate regarding Nikola Tesla's). Edit requests are for uncontroversial changes only; unfortunately, I would say that this is a type of change that requires consensus. Contrary to what you may have implied, consensus is not established by simply providing a source, though it may certainly help—see this page for some of the ways it can be achieved. Alternatively, if you make three additional edits with your account, you will most likely become autoconfirmed and will therefore have the ability to edit this semi-protected article (this would not mean that you do not need consensus), though I must note that you have been "strongly discouraged" from doing so by an administrator due to having a conflict of interest. LifeofTau 08:47, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

Updates on more recent activities

Please kindly add the following updates:

He was named 2018 Hangzhou Tourism Ambassador.

[Under acting career]

Wang starred in Forever Young, a film that completed shooting in 2012, and finally released on January 12, 2018.

Kievew (talk) 07:02, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Please add this tag to the main page

Thank you. 205.189.94.17 (talk) 20:46, 16 July 2018 (UTC)

Updating the latest for Wang Leehom

Top paragraph addition

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In addition to his music, Wang also acted in several films, including Ang Lee's Lust, Caution, Jackie Chan's Little Big Soldier, Michael Mann's Blackhat, etc. He is an environmental activist, and his album Change Me was dedicated to raising eco-awareness among Chinese youth. Wang was one of the first torchbearers for the Beijing 2008 Summer Olympics, and performed in the Olympics' closing ceremony in Beijing. He was again a torchbearer for the 2012 Summer Olympics in London, making him the only person in the Mandarin pop circle to have taken part in the event twice.[5][6] He is a longtime ambassador for World Vision Taiwan[7] and was appointed World Vision Malaysia's 15th anniversary ambassador.[8]

Wang was listed as one of Goldsea's "The 100 Most Inspiring Asian Americans of All Time".[9] In April 2018, CNN dubbed him "King of Chinese Pop".[10]

On December 21, 2018, Wang Leehom won his first Best Actor at the 2018 Golden Lotus Awards in Macau presented by Macau Film and Television Media Association and China International Cultural Communication Center.

Acting Career

[Reverse last two paragraphs so the list is in chronological order (i.e. 2013 before 2015):]

In July 2013, Wang was announced to be starring in an adaptation of Stan Lee's Annihilator. The film is a co-production between Magic Storm Entertainment, who partners with Stan Lee's POW! Entertainment banner and the Chinese state-run National Film Capital.[58]

Wang co-starred with Chris Hemsworth and Tang Wei in Blackhat (2015), an action thriller film on cybercrime which was written, directed and produced by Michael Mann.[57]

Filmography

[Add to table: ]

2018, Hello Mr. Billionaire, Himself, Cameo

Charitable events and free shows

·2019 - Taipei, Taiwan

Thank you

Kievew (talk) 08:56, 24 December 2018 (UTC)

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Being a father before 35

Lee Hom plans to be a father before 35, hes 30 this year(2006) and he doesnt een have a girlfriend. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.165.26 (talk) 09:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Jin Mc

No one added Jin the MC on, he was featured in Heroes Of the earth. Lot of the information isn't accurate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.105.140.175 (talk) 09:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

I removed this because Dream again wasnt a album, it was a song from "white paper" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.104.165.26 (talk) 09:36, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Major at Williams

There is no major in 'jazz piano' at Williams. He was most likely a 'music' major. I'm changing the article text to reflect this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.228.106.167 (talk) 07:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Music Man World Tour Concert

He's having one from September 19-20 in Taipei Arena: http://asianfanatics.net/forum/Leehom-s-Music-Man-World-Tour-Concert-talk562171.html. I don't know why it's called a World tour when it's only for 2 days. Maybe he's adding more but I don't know. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.84.110.216 (talk) 02:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 December 2021

Consider rephrasing references to Wang Leehom and Lee Jinglei having "refuted" each other's allegations -- refute generally means disproving a claim. Pending further disclosures from either party, what Wang and Lee have done is better described as having "denied" the allegations against them. Torygraph (talk) 04:40, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. Refute also means to deny. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:08, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 December 2021

In the Personal Life section: the ages Wang and Lee started dating in Oct 2013 should be 36 and 26 not 26 and 16 or underage. Please correct it. Thanks. Kawats (talk) 03:12, 27 December 2021 (UTC)

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 03:38, 27 December 2021 (UTC)