Talk:Wanda Wasilewska

Latest comment: 1 year ago by My very best wishes in topic "Negotiations" with Stalin?

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The link redirects to "Kurier Wileński" - absurd. Xx236 06:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

Which language? edit

Did she write fluent Russian after the war? Or someone edited her texts (the husband)?Xx236 (talk) 13:32, 11 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Związek Patriotów Polskich wasn't a government edit

It was a Soviet type organization.Xx236 (talk) 07:56, 17 July 2008 (UTC)Reply

Was the goal of this to integrate Poland into the soviet union, as a republic akin to Lithuania/Latvia/Ukraine? Or was that simply her goal? It didn't end up mattering, since Stalin was grudgingly forced to accept both Poland and Mongolia as satellite states, but I'm still curious, since it would've been pretty cool if this had happened.

סרסלי, קײק פּלז (talk) 10:59, 5 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

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NPOV edit

Reads like Russian propaganda, needs serious NPOV review 2601:646:C900:63B0:21EA:E181:AA9F:9F39 (talk) 08:50, 15 May 2022 (UTC)Reply

"Negotiations" with Stalin? edit

This page tells in the lead: "Wasilewska negotiated with Stalin Poland's post-war borders. The borders attained conformed to Wasilewska's views of where they should be and represented the furthest extension of the country's territory that could be considered at the time...". This reads like a fantasy. Is it true per RS? Being a consultant and negotiating something with Stalin are entirely different things. What exactly the single cited source say? Can you quote it here, please? My very best wishes (talk) 21:19, 26 November 2022 (UTC)Reply

I'm going to look up the sources I quoted here and in the Polish article. Not in a sense of formal negotiations, but Wasilewska had a way of getting from Stalin what she wanted. Post-war Polish-communist leaders, Bierut, Gomułka and others, had given themselves the credit for Poland's new borders, but during the war only Wasilewska had access to Stalin and what she obtained from him lasted through the Potsdam Conference challenge and to this day. Had it not been for Wasilewska's presence and actions, history could have given Poland the kind of border deal that Hungary ended up with. Orczar (talk) 12:55, 28 November 2022 (UTC)Reply
Yes, she apparently was a consultant and as such could probably influence some decisions by Stalin, but they were his decisions. How that kind of things can at all be documented, i.e. "he made such and such decisions because of her". From what I read, few to none people were able to influence decisions by Stalin, and not in the way of negotiating anything. For example, Beria was able to "convince" Stalin to remove his personal protectors like Nikolai Vlasik by fueling his suspicions and making provocations. My very best wishes (talk) 16:42, 28 November 2022 (UTC)Reply