Talk:Voodoo (aircraft)
Latest comment: 1 year ago by 67.60.231.114 in topic It was built in 1944?
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It was built in 1944? edit
Is this fact even worth mentioning? This plane has all the hallmarks of a Ship of Theseus (Trigger's broom) philosophical question. I'm pretty sure it's not got the same wings, airframe, wings, skin, engine or propeller that was assembled in 1944. Which begs the question, is it the same plane that rolled off the wartime production line in 1944. I don't think it is. 146.200.202.126 (talk) 11:08, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- Despite the heavy modifications, there are still many original parts on the aircraft. And even if there weren't, most, if not all sources state that the aircraft was built in 1944. - ZLEA T\C 12:13, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
- So to justify that statement, where are the sources that specify how much, and what parts of the current aircraft are original to distinguish them from any later addition? The logic that says this plane was built in 1944 has about as much sense as to saying that when you see the New York of today, it was built in 1625. 146.200.202.126 (talk) 18:12, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- Most sources state that Voodoo was built in 1944. The Ship of Theseus question has no universally agreed-upon resolution, so even if none of the parts are original due to gradual replacement and/or modification, we cannot just state that it is not the same aircraft. so unless there are reliable sources which explicitly state that Voodoo is not the same airframe as 122-39874, we cannot conduct original research and make such a statement. Here's a somewhat related example to illustrate. When the custom-built P-51XR Precious Metal was built in 1988, the tail (and dataplate) came from a 1945 P-51D, which was also named Precious Metal (though the tail of that aircraft had previously come from an unidentified P-51H). After a year, another tail was fitted to the P-51XR, and the old tail was re-installed to the P-51D. While there was some confusion early on (there is still some to a lesser extent today), most sources state that the two Precious Metals are distinct aircraft. - ZLEA T\C 20:25, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- So to justify that statement, where are the sources that specify how much, and what parts of the current aircraft are original to distinguish them from any later addition? The logic that says this plane was built in 1944 has about as much sense as to saying that when you see the New York of today, it was built in 1625. 146.200.202.126 (talk) 18:12, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- First of all, "raises the question" and "begs the question" don't mean the same thing.
- The average age of the cells in a human body is 7-10 years old. Which raises the question, are we different people because parts of the whole have been replaced? 67.60.231.114 (talk) 22:48, 20 September 2022 (UTC)