Talk:Vladimir Tatlin

Latest comment: 18 days ago by 77.125.217.248 in topic Why was it written "Russian and Ukrainian artist"?

Tatlin was born in Moscow. edit

Please stop changing his place of birth. Tatlin was born in Moscow in 1885, and moved with his family to Kharkiv years later. These are just some of the many sources that state this:

Boersma, Linda. 0,10. The Last Futurist Exhibition of Painting. Rotterdam: 010 Publishers, 1994.

Lynton, Norbert. Tatlin's Tower: Monument to Revolution. New Haven: Yale University Press, 2009.

Rowell, Margit. “Vladimir Tatlin: Form/Faktura.” October Vol. 7 Winter 1978: 83-108.

Museum Tinguely Basel. Tatlin: New Art for a New World. Basel: Hatje Cantz, 2012.

Gabsvillalobos (talk) 20:23, 14 January 2013 (UTC)Reply

I have updated the page leaving both Kharkiv and Moscow (although academic sources say he was born in Moscow) Brandmajor (talk) 12:18, 5 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

Are you sure, the sources above are to be trusted? I dont have them (so I cant even check if they say what Gabsvillalobos claims they do) and all the sources I do have do say that he was born in Charkow/Kharkiv:
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Vladimir-Yevgrafovich-Tatlin
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13688218/vladimir-tatlin
https://monoskop.org/images/3/3c/Tatlin_Shapiro_Myerson_Vinogradov_1920_1976_The_Work_Ahead_of_Us.pdf Wilhelm3 (talk) 04:14, 24 May 2022 (UTC)Reply
I have added citations to the books mentioned by Gabsvillalobos that indeed say that Tatlin was born in Moscow. Soqquad (talk) 21:25, 19 March 2023 (UTC)Reply

"Selivestrov Penza Art School" edit

Just wanted to note there's a glitch in the main text involving "Selivestrov Penza Art School." I wasn't sure how to fix it, but wanted to draw it to your attention. It currently looks like this: [[:ru:%D0%9F%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B7%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%B5 %D1%85%D1%83%D0%B4%D0%BE%D0%B6%D0%B5%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B5 %D1%83%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%89%D0%B5 %D0%B8%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8 %D0%9|N.Selivestrov Penza Art School]] Yalunga (talk) 04:44, 14 March 2019 (UTC)Reply

Wiki Education assignment: Architectural History edit

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Family members edit

Son - Anatoli Romov Granddaughter - Nina Romova 2603:8001:2400:4E0E:30F6:AA0F:E5C1:B7BC (talk) 22:30, 24 January 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why was it written "Russian and Ukrainian artist"? edit

His parents were both from Oryol, Russia. They were both Russians. Even if he was born in Kharkov, it was then part of the Russian Empire. There's literally nothing about him to call him "Ukrainian". 2A0D:6FC2:67D1:2400:F9D6:635C:3547:1D30 (talk) 22:51, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

And there was a large presence of Ukrainians that was scrubbed and destroyed. Many Ukrainians in South Western russia were killed during the Holodomor or russified.
Feel free to read the article. He spoke Ukrainian. He was literally a bandura playing. 78.199.138.115 (talk) 18:36, 23 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
That's original research and just fiction, there is no reference anywhere to him being Ukrainian.
As for learning Ukrainian songs, he picked them up while living in Kharkov. That part is documented.
I learnt a few songs in Italian, am I now Italian? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.125.217.248 (talk) 14:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Reply