Talk:Vladimir Putin

New photo

A free public domain of Putin in 2024 was posted if possible you can find it and use it (it is posted by a russian person) Yousifali777 (talk) 14:01, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

I also found another one, posted by a Moldovan politician: [[File

Владимир Путин (06-03-2024).jpg]]. I think that this could be used as well

RAMSES$44932 (talk) 10:33, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Yes this is the one but let’s wait for an admin to use it Yousifali777 (talk) 10:47, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 March 2024

Change the official portrait Владимир Путин (08-03-2024) (cropped).jpg Lorgadh (talk) 13:13, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

 Not done: the file does not exist. Please check the filename, and check that it is uploaded to English Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons. Also, please establish consensus to update the photo before making a request. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 14:28, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Age

Why has Wikipedia not included Putin’s age - yes his date of birth is shown but why not his age in brackets as is usual 2A02:C7C:A81D:5000:D9B3:F7B4:611:B6D1 (talk) 18:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 March 2024

Please change the tense of the section about the The 2020 Khabarovsk Krai protests to be past tense. The protests ended several years ago. See 2020–2021 Khabarovsk Krai protests Uhoj (talk) 12:38, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

 Done PianoDan (talk) 21:21, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

Pronouciation

How is his name pronounced? I have heard it Pewtin or as Pooteen. Jokem (talk) 04:11, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Current pronunciation in the lead sounds correct to me (transliteration from Cyrillic to Latin alphabet is a bit challenging altogether, so I think keeping it in Cyrillic only might be easier). Ppt91^talk 20:23, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

Article length (WP:TOOBIG)

Per prosize, this article has a word count of over 18,000 words, exceeding guidelines set at WP:TOOBIG. Per review of the archives, this has been discussed before but many years ago. Can we review opportunities to trim or split the article into a more manageable size? Perhaps moving more info over to Political career of Vladimir Putin? Pdubs.94 (talk) 00:44, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Not that I object, but an article about a major world leader of a nuclear-armed state leading a war against another nation who has a warrant out for his arrest should be expected to have a lengthier article than average. 331dot (talk) 09:20, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Incorrect info on Putin's job in the 1990s

"chief of the Main Control Directorate of the Presidential Property Management Department (until June 1998)" – this is incorrect. Should be "chief of the Main Control Directorate of the Presidential Administration (until June 1998)"

He worked (as deputy) in Presidential Property Management Department and later as head of the Main Control Directorate of the Presidential Administration of Russia (these days, "Main" is dropped from the name), not the Main Control Directorate of the Presidential Property Management Department (which is still called "Main"). These are two different offices.

I posted once before, but to no avail. Loquens homo (talk) 12:07, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

@Loquens homo Would you mind providing a reliable source to support this translation and/or provide more details about these two offices? I'll be happy to make that edit, but we cannot do that without a source. Pavel Borodin's page also uses the same name. Ppt91^talk 21:00, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

Sure, it is confusing indeed. First, here are these two units, they still exist:

- unit in Presidential Administration: http://en.kremlin.ru/structure/administration/departments#department-1006

- unit in Presidential Property Management Department:

https://udprf.ru/en/content/main-control-directorate

https://udprf.ru/en/obshchie-svedeniya/structure#:~:text=Main%20control%20directorate

Just to underscore the scope of the difference: the latter is essentially inspector general of one government department (the one in charge of e.g. president's residents, transportation, etc.). The former is inspector general for the entirety of Russian federal government.

Next, note that, since 1993 or 1995, Presidential Property Management Department is not part of the Presidential Administration; it's a separate federal agency instead: https://udprf.ru/en#:~:text=It%20became%20an%20independent%20federal%20executive%20body%20governed%20by%20the%20President%20of%20the%20Russian%20Federation. Borodin was its head until 2000.

Also note that the unit in Presidential Administration had an adjective "Main" in its name in 1996-2004 (i.e. units in two different agencies had identical names), but lost it since. That's probably is the key source of confusion:

- Putin did work (in 1996-97) at Presidential Property Management Department (as Borodin's deputy)

- Putin worked (in 1997-98) at the Main Control Directorate of the Presidential Administration (as the chief of directorate) at the time when it had an identical name to the unit of Presidential Property Management Department.

Link to official bio.

(And on top of all that, there are translation issues, for example English page of Presidential Property Management Department is Directorate of the President of the Russian Federation, while on its webpage it is called the Administrative Directorate of the President of the Russian Federation.)

It is important, because Presidential Property Management Department, while influential, is not set up to be a political organization that exercises power. All units of Presidential Administration are exercising power, so Putin's move from the former to the latter was a move to a more political and more powerful job. Loquens homo (talk) 19:27, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Early life and Putin's CV

According to a detailed account in the Economist on 10 June 2023, Putin's life story until his late teens is completely falsified. The article was published on the occasion of the death of his mother on 31 May 2023, aged 97, who lived as a poor Russian peasant woman in Metechi, Georgia, where Putin was born and went to school. The article is based on research by two Western journalists from 2003 who have soon later been died by the KGB in „accidents“. -- The least that should be said here at Wiki is that there are doubts about Putin's CV. -- I can send the Economist article as a jpg file if required. If you are interested, please leave your address here. 2003:EA:F43:1811:B0E4:D76A:4DC7:2FB8 (talk) 16:47, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 April 2024

Kindly insert/change the initial description at the top of the page to reflect that Vladimir Putin is a “genocidal tyrant dictator” between the description “politician” and “former intelligence officer”. 120.136.57.237 (talk) 07:16, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. — Czello ^(music) 07:31, 9 April 2024 (UTC)