Talk:VistaJet

Rewrite

I will be conducting an incremental rewrite of this article for the clichéd reasons of neutrality and advertisement. Our users deserve better.89.242.202.57 (talk) 21:50, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Requested move 16 September 2013

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The result of the move request was: Move. Cúchullain ^t/c 14:19, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

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VistaJet Holding SA → VistaJet – Articles should be known by their common name, not the legal name which I've included in the article. 89.242.202.57 (talk) 22:09, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

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• Support per WP:COMMONNAME. There may be other topics associated with this name, but for now this is the only one with an article. --BDD (talk) 18:33, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

• Actually Vista Jet that operates the aircraft is not the same as VistaJet Holdings SA of Switzerland, it is either Vista Jet Lufthfahrtunternehem GmbH an Austrian outfit (who own the VJS code and callsign VISTA JET) and we also have a Maltese company Vistajet Limited that uses Maltese registered aircraft (with the VJT code). So you need to decide if this is about the holding company or one or more airlines. MilborneOne (talk) 22:23, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
• Good point. The public objectively consider the private jet operator at vistajet.com which is prime here.89.242.202.57 (talk) 22:29, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

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Charter Operations

The last sentence in this paragraph is a fragment, and I'm not sure what the author was trying to convey. "Fractional charging, where each craft is owned or leased by multiple clients.[13]" It really leaves me pulling my hair out when I get to the period - there needs to be something more, but what? Jarod (talk) 03:53, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Rewrite Request

Due to conflict of interest in submitting material for VistaJet, I ask that the editors and contributors assist in the direct updating of this page based on the below suggested additions to the VistaJet Wikipedia page. The reasons being:

• Outdated/now incorrect information (page has only been subjected to minor edits since 2013)
• Updated ‘History’ section
• Update company purpose/strategy (i.e. VistaJet is not a charter company offering ‘pay-as-you-go’ services as stated)
• Logo not in use since 2012

Please note that these suggestions are a result of an independent advisor’s assessment, and that we respectfully ask the editors to verify and assess that all content is comprehensive and neutral, and for contributors to omit, edit and add where appropriate.

RnK13 (talk) 12:57, 4 October 2016 (UTC)

Introduction

VistaJet is a global business aviation company, founded in 2004 by Thomas Flohr. Originally headquartered in Baar, Switzerland, VistaJet announced it was moving its headquarters to Malta, a member of the European Union, in March 2016.

The company currently has offices in the UK; Malta; China; Hong Kong; and the USA.

VistaJet has a fleet of 70 identically branded Global and Challenger super-mid to ultra-long range Bombardier business aircraft.

VistaJet has its own European Aircraft Operating Certificate (AOC) in Malta and Austria, and it has partners in certain countries where in order to fly domestically it can’t be the majority owner of an AOC (eg. the US and China).

(To replace ‘Charter Operations’) – Strategy

VistaJet offers two products, the Program and On Demand:

Program

The VistaJet Program offers a comparable alternative to business jet asset ownership. Not fractional or charter, the Program contracts are multi-year flight hour subscriptions, with committed payments securing guaranteed availability for flights on the VistaJet fleet globally.

On Demand

Customers and aircraft brokers can arrange ad hoc flights 24/7 with VistaJet directly.

(Existing section) Fleet

VistaJet exclusively operates Bombardier business aircraft under warranty. Its current fleet includes the Global 6000, Global 5000, Global XRS, Challenger 850, Challenger 605 and Challenger 350 models. All aircraft are painted silver with a red stripe and have identical interiors and products on board

(Section Addition) – On-board Service VistaJet flights are attended by cabin crew trained by the British Butler Institute and offer catering from Nobu, a hand-picked wine list, a curated library and organic amenity kits, amongst others.

(Additions – History section)

(To be inserted as Paragraph 2) In May 2007, VistaJet confirmed that it had placed firm orders for 17 Bombardier business jets in the previous 12 months, worth $450 million in total.

(To be inserted as Paragraph 3) VistaJet signed a Memorandum of Understanding for the acquisition of the international charter operator Skyjet in May 2008. The deal included Skyjet’s bases in Farnborough, Dubai and Hong Kong, and would make VistaJet the second-largest private jet company outside America.

(To be inserted as Paragraph 4) In the second largest Bombardier order in history, in June 2008 VistaJet submitted a firm aircraft order for 35 Bombardier jets, with an option for 25 more. The firm order was comprised of 11 Challenger 605s, 13 Learjet 60XRs and 11 of the newly introduced Learjet 85s. The order was worth $1.2 billion and would triple the size of VistaJet’s fleet.

(To be inserted as Paragraph 5) In October 2009, Chairman and Founder Thomas Flohr took over managing the day to day operations of the company from the then CEO Philippe Bruggisser, who moved to a special projects role.

(To be inserted as Paragraph 6) VistaJet placed the biggest private jet order in history in November 2012, when it ordered 56 Global-series aircraft from Bombardier and took options for a further 86. The deal was valued at around $3.1 billion, rising to $7.8 billion should all the planes be taken.

By the end of 2012 the company had expanded significantly, making 10,000 international flights and landing at 136 airstrips in Africa alone.

(To be inserted as Paragraph 7) In June 2013, VistaJet placed a firm order of 20 Challenger 350 aircraft, with options for another 20 in a deal worth around $518 million.

(Please update the following) “September 2013 VistaJet announces agreements with Wheels Up and Jet Aviation Flight Services to offer access to Global aircraft flights within the United States, under the VistaJet Flight Solutions Program (FSP), as of March 2014. VistaJet will invest 600 million USD in a fleet of new American-based Bombardier Global aircraft that will be operated and managed by Jet Aviation Flight Services, a Part 135 U.S. air carrier.”

Note to the Editor: The main agreement for VistaJet’s US operations was the Jet Aviation partnership. A temporary arrangement was put into place with Wheels Up for joint sales efforts, however this was consequently replaced with VistaJet’s own US-based sales force.

(To say:)

VistaJet enhanced its services to America in September 2013 when it agreed a partnership with Jet Aviation Flight Services to operate a fleet of 12 Bombardier Global aircraft on its behalf. The move was part of its strategy to target former and current fractional ownership customers in the country by offering access to Global aircraft flights within the United States operated by Jet Aviation, under the VistaJet Flight Solutions Program (FSP), from March 2014.

(To be inserted as Paragraph 8) VistaJet agreed a hosting deal with Jet Aviation, part of General Dynamics, in March 2014, enabling it to enter the US market.

In May 2014, VistaJet was presented with the EBAA Platinum Safety of Flight Award, which is given to companies that have achieved at least 50 years, or 100,000 hours, of safe flying.

(To be inserted as Paragraph 9) In March 2015, VistaJet sold its last LearJet 60, ending the company’s association with light jets, and ensuring its fleet was simplified to the Bombardier Global and Challenger aircraft models.

The American company Priester Aviation was selected by VistaJet to operate a US based VistaJet fleet of Bombardier Challenger 350 aircraft in November 2015 for its Flight Solutions Program.

VistaJet entered the internal Chinese market in 2015. In July of that year, VistaJet announced that Apex Air would manage and operate a China based fleet of aircraft for VistaJet, and that it had registered its first aircraft in China, a Challenger 850.

(To be inserted as Paragraph 10) In March 2016, VistaJet announced that it intended to move its corporate headquarters to Malta, and that it had taken delivery of its 50th Maltese registered aircraft. The company also said that it would move its operations, finance and European Customer Service functions to the island.

(To be inserted as Paragraph 12) In May 2016, Bombardier and VistaJet officially announced delivery of the 100th ever Bombardier aircraft to its fleet at the 2016 European Business Aviation Convention and Exhibition (EBACE) in Geneva.

Also at EBACE 2016, VistaJet earned an EBAA Diamond Safety of Flight Award for surpassing 50 years, or 100, 000 hours, of flying without an accident.

(To be created – Collaborations section)

VistaJet has collaborated with Moncler for a number of years, and the luxury fashion brand designed and produced the uniforms for VistaJet’s crew. http://www.vogue.com/970015/moncler-and-vistajet-celebrate-a-collaboration-at-london-fashion-week/ It partners with other brands to extend its in-flight experience: with home furnishings from Christofle, scents from Le Labo, cosmetics from The Body Deli and food from Nobu.

In December 2016, VistaJet partnered with luxury publisher Assouline to release a new book called “The Art of Flying”.

I'm haven't reviewed the references and such, and will not be the one to rewrite the article, but I just want to mention that the Program, On Demand, Fleet and On Board Service sections should not be implemented as they are, due to promotional/unrelated content that they contain. Regards, VB00 (talk) 15:19, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

Agreed. Declined edit. "VistaJet flights are attended by cabin crew trained by the British Butler Institute and offer catering from Nobu, a hand-picked wine list, a curated library and organic amenity kits, amongst others" is blatant advertising. So is "VistaJet partnered with luxury publisher Assouline to release a new book called “The Art of Flying”". ("Luxury publisher"? Please.) COI editors can ask to add cold facts, but don't mix in ad copy. Volunteer editors don't have time to sort out the hype from the facts. Thanks. John Nagle (talk) 18:34, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

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