Talk:Violent conflicts involving the Yishuv
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anyone want this article
editI don't think there is anything here not covered multiple times in other places. Anyone disagree? Zerotalk 23:19, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
- I object this proposal. I created this article as a prelude to the article Wars involving Israel which contains an overview of the wars involving Israel, and as such I believe that this article too would be of great importance to the users whom would also want to get an overview of the violent conflicts involving the Yishuv which preceded the establishment of the state of Israel. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 15:37, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
List or prose?
editIf this is a list, it should be titled List of violent conflicts involving the Yishuv. Opinions are welcome. —Ynhockey (Talk) 12:49, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Agreed. But are we sure this isn't covered by any other list? Zerotalk 23:34, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
- Might be, although I can't think of anything at the moment. Are there any other lists that should cover this? —Ynhockey (Talk) 07:32, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
- Why Yishuv, why not "Violent conflicts in the British Mandate of Palestine"?--PLNR (talk) 10:28, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- That would be a better title.
- Some of the exemples that are given are not "violent conflicts".
- Why not: Political Violence in the Mandatory Palestine ? Pluto2012 (talk) 18:24, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
- I think that "conflicts" is more appropriate due to the nature of the content. How about Violent conflicts in Mandatory Palestine? --PLNR (talk) 07:27, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
- You are of course right for the article "the". Sorry for this mistake.
- 1920, 1921 and 1929 events are not "conflicts" but "riots" but 1936-39 events was a murderous conflict and 1948 was a war! That's why I suggested political violence
- Maybe "Riots and conflicts in Mandatory Palestine" ?
- Pluto2012 (talk) 22:11, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
- We already have Intercommunal conflict in Mandatory Palestine, but i would support List of wars involving Mandatory Palestine.GreyShark (dibra) 17:20, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
- I think that "conflicts" is more appropriate due to the nature of the content. How about Violent conflicts in Mandatory Palestine? --PLNR (talk) 07:27, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
- Why Yishuv, why not "Violent conflicts in the British Mandate of Palestine"?--PLNR (talk) 10:28, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
- Might be, although I can't think of anything at the moment. Are there any other lists that should cover this? —Ynhockey (Talk) 07:32, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
descriptions of events
editTo describe demonstrations against the Zionist project in Palestine, regardless of the violence level, as demonstrations against Jews is a lie. There is no other word to describe it. Zerotalk 00:16, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
- Events like the 1929 Hebron massacre and 1929 Safed riots were pogroms against Jews, not against "the Zionist project", which is an euphemism to justify antisemitic attacks.--יניב הורון (Yaniv) (talk) 10:44, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
- You don't know what you are talking about. All of the mass violence against Jews between 1920 and 1947 was motivated by opposition to Zionism. All of it, according to practically every source and all the official inquiries. It was even true when the victims (as in Hebron, 1929) were mostly not Zionists. That's the nature of riots. Zerotalk 13:07, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
- Attempts to portray anti-Zionism amongst Arab Palestinians during the mandate period as antisemitism are fundamentally racist in my opinion. As if the Palestinians needed to be antisemites in order to fear their homeland being taken away from them, which was what was being planned and what actually happened. Zerotalk 13:13, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
- Well, they could have had their own country if they hadn't rejected the Jewish people's right to national self-determination in their own homeland since 1937 till date (aka anti-Zionism, which according to some is also a form of antisemitism), but this is not a forum, isn't it? All serious and reliable sources describe those attacks as directed against Jews, not some kind of "Zionist project" as you described.--יניב הורון (Yaniv) (talk) 00:16, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Apparently you never read the sources on this subject. Zerotalk 01:18, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Well, they could have had their own country if they hadn't rejected the Jewish people's right to national self-determination in their own homeland since 1937 till date (aka anti-Zionism, which according to some is also a form of antisemitism), but this is not a forum, isn't it? All serious and reliable sources describe those attacks as directed against Jews, not some kind of "Zionist project" as you described.--יניב הורון (Yaniv) (talk) 00:16, 26 June 2018 (UTC)