Talk:Villanova University

Latest comment: 6 months ago by 2601:204:CF81:EC80:FDC3:1112:D18:4B5D in topic Should we add Cardinal Robert F. Prevost as a alumnus to the page ?

puff and campus descriptions edit

Hi @GuardianH, thanks for your help with this article, it is getting much better. Let me ask you a question about detailed topographical campus descriptions and puffery. I like the way you deleted the completely unsourced Villanova campus descriptions. Which criteria do you apply? A lot of higher ed articles have this kind of puff. When does a building become siginificant, when does a campus green merit inclusion in Wikipedia? These are some of my questions. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 06:25, 20 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

@Melchior2006 Primarily WP:VERFIABILITY, especially WP:NOSOURCES (Do not leave unsourced or poorly sourced material in an article if it might damage the reputation of living people or existing groups, and do not move it to the talk page). I believe academic boosterism and puffery damages a university's reputation, as it sets an unrealistic standard for the subject in question, not to mention also that readers on Wikipedia are much more perceptive than we take them to be, and can themselves distinguish puffery in an article which reflects very poorly of the institution or alumni.
I'll try to find a source to verify the information through a quick search, but most of the time a lot of information is unverifiable or a hopeless WP:SYNTH — this is usually the case in sports sections or in the greek sections that you've seen. It also happens that sections like those have the most puffery. Regarding inclusion, it's really a matter of looking at the outside, reliable secondary sources — nothing too different from what WP:NOTABILITY says. Of course, most of the time the available sources stem from the university/institution itself, or from local sources that have an explicit connection to the subject in which case it doesn't qualify inclusion. GuardianH (talk) 19:20, 20 July 2023 (UTC)Reply

Should we add Cardinal Robert F. Prevost as a alumnus to the page ? edit

He seems notable enough for me. 2601:204:CF81:EC80:FDC3:1112:D18:4B5D (talk) 14:35, 25 October 2023 (UTC)Reply