Talk:Victorian Railways S type carriage

Latest comment: 5 years ago by Trainsofvictoria in topic Simple table for all 39 S-type carriages

Simple table for all 39 S-type carriages

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Can someone help me to fill this in?

Intent is to cover all classes - Unnumbered, AS, BS, ABS, VFS, VFR, VRS, RS, MBS, MRS, SS, BRS, OS, CS, DS, State 5. I'd also like it to be sortable. I have the data in excel form, is there a quick, easy way to convert it?

After the table, if you look at the text in 'edit' mode it looks right, obviously it looks like someone smashed a keyboard with a mallet below...

Original AS BS ABS (1953) VFS (1962) VFR (1964) MBS (1966) MRS (1977) SS New Deal
01 1 9 BS 209
02 2 2 BS 202
03 3 11 BS 211
04 4 BS 204
05 5 5, 7 BS 207
6 1BRS, BRS 221
7 Scrapped 1970
8 AS 206, BS 206
9 3 9BRS, BRS 229
10
11
12
13
14
15
16
06 1
07 2
08 3
09 4
5
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
Wimmera
Mitta Mitta
Tanjil
Moorabool

Year Type Original Prime Standard Gauge IDs Other BG IDs New Deal code(s) 1937 S Steel AE 1 AS 01 BS 9 BS 209 1937 S Steel AE 2 AS 02 BS 2 BS 202 1937 S Steel AE 3 AS 03 BS 11 BS 211 1938 S Steel AE 4 AS 04 BS 204 1937 S Steel AE 5 AS 05 BS 5 BS 7 BS 207 1937 S AS 06 BRS 1 BRS 221 1940 S AS 07 Scrapped (BS220?) 1940 S AS 08 AS-->BS 206 1940 S AS 09 ABS 3 AS 9 MBS 3 BRS 9 BRS 229 1948 S AS 10 BS 3 BS 203 1949 S AS 11 BS 1 BS 201 1937 S AS 12 ABS 1 AS 12 BRS 3 BRS 223 1949 S AS 13 ABS 2 BS 15 BS 12 BS 212 1950 S AS 14 BS 205 1952 S AS 15 AS-->BS 210 1937 S AS 16 BRS 2 BRS 222 1940 S Steel BE 6 BS 01 MRS 2 BRS 226 1937 S Steel BE 7 BS 02 MBS 1 BS 13 BS 213 1952 S Steel BE 8 BS 03 MBS 2 BRS 227 1955 S Steel BE 9 BS 04 MRS 1 BRS 225 1940 S BS 05 VAC 2 Sleeper 16 SS 286 --> BS 219 1940 S BS 06 VAC 1 Sleeper 15 SS 285 --> BS 218 1956 S BS 07 BRS 224 1955 S BS 08 BS 208 1955 S BS 09 VFS 4 VFR 2 VFR 215 BS 215 1948 S BS 10 VFS 1 BRS 8 BRS 228 1956 S BS 11 VFS 2 VFS 214 BS 214 1956 S BS 12 VFX 1 VFX 216 BS 216 1956 S BS 13 VFX 2 VFX 217 BS 217 1949 S BS 14 VFS 3 VFR 1 BRS 10 BRS 230 1937 S Steel CE Van CS 1 VHN 1 VHN 241 CS 241 1938 S Steel Bulk Mail DS 1 VHN 2 CS 2 Scrapped (CS242?) 1939 S Mitta Mitta VRS 1 Buffet 3 VRS 231 1939 S Moorabool Buffet 4 RS 234 1937 S Dining Car Murray RS 236 1937 S Parlor Car Norman OS-->RS 237 1937 S Tanjil VRS 3 Buffet 1? RS 233 1938 S Wimmera VRS 2 Buffet 2 VRS 232 1951 S State Car 5 State Car 5

Anothersignalman (talk) 15:30, 24 May 2013 (UTC)Reply


Here is a list of what each of the 40 S cars was converted to/from with dates (where I was able to find them):

Original ID 2nd ID 3rd ID 4th ID 5th ID 6th ID 7th ID Location
SOP Car 1
14 Nov 1937
AS 1
30 Aug 1939
BS 209
10 Sep 1984
AS 1 SRHC
SOP Car 2
14 Nov 1937
AS 2
30 Aug 1939
BS 2 (2nd)
8 Oct 1982
BS 202
14 Dec 1984
AS 2 SRHC
SOP Car 3
14 Nov 1937
AS 3
30 Aug 1939
BS 211
7 Aug 1983
AS 3 SRHC
SOP Car 4
5 Apr 1938
AS 4
30 Aug 1939
BS 204
5 Nov 1983
AS 4 SRHC
SOP Car 5
14 Nov 1937
AS 5
30 Aug 1939
BS 7 (2nd)
12 Aug 1983
BS 207
c. Apr 1984
AS 5 BS 7 (2nd) Steamrail
SOP Car 6
14 Nov 1937
BS 1 (1st)
30 Aug 1939
MRS 2
9 July 1977
BRS 226
21 Apr 1984
BS 1 (1st)
Feb 1997
SRHC
SOP Car 7
14 Nov 1937
BS 2 (1st)
30 Aug 1939
MBS 1
28 Jan 1966
BS 13 (2nd)
Dec 1983
BS 213
22 Dec 1983
BS 2 Steamrail
SOP Car 8
14 Nov 1937
BS 3 (1st)
30 Aug 1939
MBS 2
28 Jan 1966
BRS 227
24 Oct 1983
BS 3 (1st) SRHC
SOP Car 9
14 Nov 1937
BS 4
30 Aug 1939
MRS 1
9 July 1977
BRS 225
7 Oct 1983
PN Crew Car PN
Dining Car
17 Nov 1937
Murray (2nd)
11 Jan 1963
RS 236
(Murray)
Mar 1985
Dining Car SRHC
Parlor Car
17 Nov 1937
Lounge Car
Apr 1956
Club Car
13 May 1958
Norman (2nd)
6 Apr 1963
OS 237
(Norman)
Oct 1985
RS 237
(Norman)
July 1994
Parlor Car SRHC
Steel CE Van
18 Nov 1937
CS 1
30 Aug 1939
VHN 1
16 Mar 1962
VHN 241
16 Feb 1984
Test Car CS 241
Feb 1993
CS 1 SRHC
Steel Bulk Mail
5 Apr 1938
DS 1
30 Aug 1939
CS 2
24 Sep 1956
VHN 2
Mar 1962
Damaged
17 June 1982
Scrapped
21 Sep 1984
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AS 6
19 Apr 1940
BRS 1
2 Apr 1983
BRS 221
c. July 1985
PN Crew Car PN
AS 7
21 May 1940
Damaged
24 Oct 1970
Scrapped
11 May 1972
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AS 8
31 May 1940
AS 206
9 July 1984
BS 206
20 May 1985
AS 8 Steamrail
AS 9
2 Dec 1948
ABS 3
4 Sep 1956
AS 9
10 Oct 1963
MBS 3
1 Oct 1968
BRS 9
25 Oct 1983
BRS 229
c1984
BRS 9
2005
Steamrail
AS 10
2 Dec 1948
BS 3 (2nd)
23 Dec 1984
BS 203
10 Apr 1985
AS 10? SRHC
AS 11
22 Mar 1949
BS 1 (2nd)
29 June 1982
BS 201
21 Aug 1984
AS 11
Oct 2005
Steamrail
AS 12
29 Mar 1949
ABS 1
21 July 1953
AS 12
19 Oct 1972
BRS 3
21 June 1983
BRS 223
Sep 1985
PN Crew Car PN
AS 13
20 May 1949
ABS 2
21 July 1953
BS 15
16 Nov 1972
BS 12 (2nd)
21 June 1983
BS 212
May 1985
707 Ops
AS 14
9 May 1950
BS 205
22 Dec 1983
707 Ops
AS 15
4 Dec 1952
AS 210
23 Nov 1984
BS 210
25 Sep 1985
Aurizon Crew Car QBCY 10 Aurizon
AS 16
18 Dec 1952
BRS 2
18 Mar 1983
BRS 222
21 June 1983
PN Crew Car PN
BS 5
25 June 1940
VAC 2
10 Apr 1962
VR Sleeper 16
23 Feb 1978
SS 286
17 Dec 1984
BS 219
23 Dec 1989
SRHC
BS 6
23 July 1940
VAC 1
2 Apr 1962
VR Sleeper 15
23 Feb 1978
SS 285
4 Apr 1985
BS 218
27 June 1990
SRHC
BS 7 (1st)
3 Sep 1940
BRS 224
25 Nov 1983
Named Williamstown 707 Ops
BS 8
5 Apr 1955
BS 208
20 Dec 1984
Aurizon Crew Car QBCY 8 Aurizon
BS 9
5 July 1955
VFS 4
10 Apr 1962
VFR 2
18 Feb 1964
VFR 215
Dec 1987
BS 215
23 Dec 1990
707 Ops
BS 10
25 Oct 1955
VFS 1
1 Mar 1962
BRS 8
Aug 1983
BRS 228
8 Mar 1984
Mitta Mitta (3rd)
Aug 1994
SRHC
BS 11
17 Jan 1956
VFS 2
15 Mar 1962
VFS 214
Sep 1987
BS 214
23 Dec 1990
BS 11 SRHC
BS 12 (1st)
12 Apr 1956
VFX 1
26 Mar 1962
VFX 216
Sep 1986
BS 216
26 Nov 1991
SRHC
BS 13 (1st)
29 June 1956
VFX 2
3 Apr 1962
VFX 217
19 Dec 1986
BS 217
15 Oct 1991
Newport - spare for 707 & SRHC
BS 14
14 Dec 1956
VFS 3
28 Mar 1962
VFR 1
27 Feb 1964
BRS 10
2 Sep 1983
BRS 230
15 Sep 1984
BRS 14 Steamrail
Wimmera (2nd)
19 Dec 1938
VRS 2
15 Mar 1962
VRS 232
22 Apr 1988
?
Mitta Mitta (2nd)
Feb 1939
VRS 1
29 Mar 1962
VRS 231
12 Dec 1983
Renamed Mitta Mitta (2nd) ARHS Museum
Moorabool
1 June 1939
RS 234
(Moorabool)
Mar 1989
Steamrail
Tanjil
31 July 1939
VRS 3
15 Apr 1962
VRS 233
Sep 1985
SRHC
Avoca
21 Apr 1927
RS 235
(Avoca)
May 1984
SRHC
State Car 5
11 Apr 1951
SRHC

Notes:

Buffet Cars numbers:
Buffet Car 1 - Taggerty - 1937 E buffet car (18 Diners & 18 First class passengers)
Buffet Car 2 - Wimmera (2nd) - 1938 S long buffet cars (31 Diners)
Buffet Car 3 - Mitta Mitta (2nd) - 1938 S long buffet cars (31 Diners)
Buffet Car 4 - Moorabool - 1939 S short buffet cars (19 Diners & 12 First class passengers)
Buffet Car 5 - Tanjil - 1939 S short buffet cars (19 Diners & 12 First class passengers)
Buffet Car 6 - Kiewa (2nd) - 1955 E restaurant cars
Buffet Car 7 - Moyne - 1955 E restaurant cars — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trainsofvictoria (talkcontribs) 18:48, 24 June 2019 (UTC)Reply
Avoca originally was a 1927 dining car
Names in brackets are where the name was kept in conjunction with it's new ID
1st/2nd/3rd in brackets are where there was a number or name reused

Trainsofvictoria (talk) 19:41, 14 June 2019 (UTC)Reply

Original SOP carriages

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Original ID 2nd ID 3rd ID 4th ID 5th ID 6th ID 7th ID Status Current livery Location
SOP Car 1 AS 1
30 Aug 1939
BS 209
10 Sep 1984
Stored V/Line Mk I SRHC
SOP Car 2 AS 2
30 Aug 1939
BS 2 (2nd)
8 Oct 1982
BS 202
14 Dec 1984
Stored V/Line Orange SRHC
SOP Car 3 AS 3
30 Aug 1939
BS 211
7 Aug 1983
AS 3 Operational VR Blue and gold SRHC
SOP Car 4 AS 4
30 Aug 1939
BS 204
5 Nov 1983
AS 4 Operational VR Blue and gold SRHC
SOP Car 5 AS 5
30 Aug 1939
BS 7 (2nd)
12 Aug 1983
BS 207
c. Apr 1984
AS 5 BS 7 (2nd) Operational VR Blue and gold Steamrail
SOP Car 6 BS 1 (1st)
30 Aug 1939
MRS 2
9 July 1977
BRS 226
21 Apr 1984
BS 1 (1st)
Feb 1997
Operational VR Blue and gold SRHC
SOP Car 7 BS 2 (1st)
30 Aug 1939
MBS 1
28 Jan 1966
BS 13 (2nd)
Dec 1983
BS 213
22 Dec 1983
BS 2 (1st) Operational VR Blue and gold Steamrail
SOP Car 8 BS 3 (1st)
30 Aug 1939
MBS 2
28 Jan 1966
BRS 227
24 Oct 1983
BS 3 (1st) Operational VR Blue and gold SRHC
SOP Car 9 BS 4
30 Aug 1939
MRS 1
9 July 1977
BRS 225
7 Oct 1983
PN Crew Car Operational PN Blue and yellow PN
Dining Car Murray (2nd)
11 Jan 1963
RS 236
(Murray)
Mar 1985
Dining Car Operational VR Blue and gold SRHC
Parlor Car Lounge Car
Apr 1956
Club Car
13 May 1958
Norman (2nd)
6 Apr 1963
OS 237
(Norman)
Oct 1985
RS 237
(Norman)
July 1994
Parlor Car Operational VR Blue and gold SRHC
Steel CE Van CS 1
30 Aug 1939
VHN 1
16 Mar 1962
VHN 241
16 Feb 1984
Test Car CS 241
Feb 1993
CS 1 Operational VR Blue and gold SRHC
Steel Bulk Mail DS 1
30 Aug 1939
CS 2
24 Sep 1956
VHN 2
Mar 1962
Damaged
17 June 1982
Scrapped
21 Sep 1984
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Trainsofvictoria (talk) 16:27, 14 June 2019 (UTC)Reply