Talk:Victorian Legislative Assembly

Latest comment: 9 years ago by Andreas11213 in topic Structure

Fixed four-year terms edit

We need to say something about the change to fixed four-year terms that took effect in 2003 (?). Also, is there any circumstance whatsoever under which a state election could be held on a date other than the date fixed by the legislation? -- JackofOz (talk) 05:39, 31 October 2008 (UTC)Reply

Is it four years terms? Need to mention —Preceding unsigned comment added by Themggsdogshow (talkcontribs) 08:14, 24 March 2009 (UTC)Reply

Current distribution of seats edit

Government benches Seats held Percentage of Assembly Opposition benches Seats held Percentage of Assembly
  Liberal Party 35 39.77   Australian Labor Party 43 48.86
  National Party 10 11.36
Total 45 51.14 Total 43 48.86

I believe that the box above is a more accurate depliction of the distribution of seats. The bottom box is misleading because it promotes Labor as the biggest and therefore in control of the Assembly. I also think the Percentage of Assembly column are unnecessary. Purrum (talk) 07:38, 23 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

I too, prefer this grouping of the Coalition for the Legislative Assembly. Романов (talk) 07:22, 24 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
Party Seats held Percentage of Assembly
  Australian Labor Party 43  48.86
  Liberal Party 35  39.77
  National Party 10  11.36
Total 88 100
How does "biggest" mean "control of the Assembly"? Timeshift (talk) 10:34, 23 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
Also because alphabetically Labor are listed first can mean Labor are number 1 , top dog etc Purrum (talk) 11:42, 23 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
and it doesn't visually show that the Libs and Nats are in coalition Purrum (talk) 11:42, 23 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

This is the Victorian Legislative Council, visually and politically clear as mudPurrum (talk) 11:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Party Seats held Percentage of Council
  Liberal Party 18  45.0
  Labor Party 16  40.0
  National Party  3   7.5
  Greens  3   7.5
Total 40 100.0

Now compare it to this Purrum (talk) 12:09, 23 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Government benches Seats held Percentage of Council Opposition benches Seats held Percentage of Council
  Liberal Party 18 45.0   Australian Labor Party 16 40.0
  National Party 3 7.5   Greens  3   7.5
Total 21 52.5 Total 19 47.5

That's your own naive view. Others don't assume Labor is in control. It is a listing of seats from highest to lowest by party as it has always been. Nothing more, nothing less. Timeshift (talk) 06:53, 24 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Same applies here. Placing the Coalition, as the governing parties together reduces confusion and is the more sensible option. Романов (talk) 07:22, 24 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

We never did groupings state or federally before. I also note that the UK House of Commons article doesn't group the governing parties. This is not a results box. It simply gives the numbers of seats by party from highest to lowest. Timeshift (talk) 07:25, 24 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Just because the English have it that way doesn't make it the right way to display it. I'm not that naive to blindly follow the leader. If I can improve an article I will. This is definitely a change for the better. Purrum (talk) 11:55, 24 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
That requires WP:CONSENSUS from a lot more than just two editors. Timeshift (talk) 15:49, 24 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
Yes it requires WP:CONSENSUS, It your job to go out and get it. Purrum (talk) 00:21, 25 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
lol that's funny. Learn the rules. A change from the status quo requires consensus. Not to keep the status quo. Timeshift (talk) 00:27, 25 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
Once you agree to the change, then we have consensus. Purrum (talk) 11:03, 25 December 2010 (UTC)Reply
How presumptuous. Two editors does not equal a consensus change of a globally used standard. Timeshift (talk) 22:55, 25 December 2010 (UTC)Reply

Structure edit

  The structure I am proposing is currently the only one available. I am happy with it. If you are unhappy with it, please, make a better one. All I am saying is that until that happens, we should at least add the only available structure. Andreas11213 (talk) 22:50, 13 November 2014 (UTC)Reply