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Intensely flavoured

Second paragraph refers to Marmite as more intensely flavoured. I disagree: the greater saltiness of vegemite makes it a much more intense flavour experience than the softer, sweeter marmite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.90.119.89 (talk) 03:06, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

I suspect you are comparing Vegemite to NZ Marmite which is a local variant sold in NZ and Australia. The original UK Marmite has a much stronger and saltier taste than Vegemite with no sweetness. Imported Vegemite is widely available in UK supermarkets so the taste comparison is easy to make. --80.176.142.11 (talk) 19:12, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Viandox -- can someone please provide either an article on this, or at least a link to their web site/manufacturer -- thank you

True Blue

The article suggests that the True Blue lyrics have been changed because Vegemite was sold to Kraft, how is this the case when the song appeared in the 1980's and the sale took place (according to every source that has any mention of the Fred Walker Company and Kraft in 1926.

If I am mistaken can someone please explain how ?

sources

• Fred Walker
• The Foreigner's Guide to Vegemite
• Vegemite.com.au
• Kraft Foods —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.150.101.251 (talk) 11:51, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Bloody Idiot

I just spent a good ten minutes fixing up where some smart arse replaced the name Vegemite with 'shit'. Someone should find whoever it was and smack a jar of Vegemite across his head. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.176.163.237 (talk) 12:35, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Next time just go to the page history click on the last decent version, click on edit, hit save and spare yourself nine & a half minutes. JЇѦρ 15:52, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

WP saint

I nominate whoever wrote this to be canonized as a Wikipedia saint  :-)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mincus (talk • contribs) 16:27, 28 September 2001 (UTC)

Men at Work

I first learned of Vegemite from Men at Works "Down Under", perhaps that could be mentioned?

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Mincus (talk • contribs) 16:27, 28 September 2001 (UTC)

We don't need a list of every song that mentions vegemite. It would clutter the article.Nlm1515 (talk) 22:55, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I'd hardly call it part of a list of every song, it's the only reason the product is known in some countries. Any time BBC News mentions vegemite, for example, the song is always mentioned. I actually think that should be noted in the introduction of the article. Esteffect (talk) 13:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Just double-checking: You realize that the comment you're responding to is 18 months old? And that the song is in the "popular culture" section, with references. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 17:33, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Men at Work II

I changed the "Men at Work" reference to delete the references to poor elocution, whci seemed completely POV and just plain wrong. After 47 years of listening to rock and roll, Men at Work and "Down Under" are pretty high on the list of elocution and understandability. I suppose people listening on hissy transistor radios under the sheets could mis-hear it, but I remember quickly asking "What the hell is Vegemite?? until it was answered by MTV or somesuch. Actually a clever little device by the composer. TJoeC 21:23, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

acquired taste changed

I'd not agree with "it appears to be very much an acquired taste", while Americans would be convinced of this I've never seen mothers forcing children to eat it nor children refusing it (any more than any other type of food). I do know the real reason for the difference in reactions, but it would spoil too much to reveal it. ;-)

—Preceding unsigned comment added by ASJ (talk • contribs) 16:24, 16 November 2001 (UTC)

C'mon, we're trying to build a repository of humanity's collected knowledge. If you have the secret to Vegemite's lack of appeal to Americans (beyond the fact they dislike salty and like sugar-laden), for the sake of scientific truth and international harmony reveal it :) --Robert Merkel

What do you mean, we don't like salty? We eat tons of potato chips, pretzels, french fries, nachos, etc.

Maybe its popularity has got to do with my earliest memories of eating it (at age 4 or 5) - spread with lots of butter on thickly cut straight-out-of-the-oven bread. Also, one might draw a parallel between vegemite and cheese. Both are stongly flavoured and popular, but no-one seriouly complains about the taste of cheese. Darkov 05:29 11 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I think the phenomenon that most Americans do not like the taste of Vegemite should be explained as best as it can. Maybe with less of an attachment to Americans and something like "People raised eating Vegemite are more likely to eat vegemite as an adult. This is partly due to its color (black) and its salty taste."

Might need a little more detail but it would be nice if something was included. I'm an American but my mother is Austrailian and she raised us eating the great stuff. I know its anecdotal but I love Vegemite but all my life the only person I've known that will try a sandwich is my wife. So in summery, in my experience it's more something your raised with and has little to do with what it's like. Thoughts, opinions? --72.177.18.148 22:26, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

"Ma might", thus "Pa will" change

I've removed the following sentence explaining the pun of Vegemite's original name:

("marmite" sounds like "Ma might", thus "Pa will")

and replaced it with

(as in the sentence: "Ma might not like the taste, but I'm sure Pa will").

as I feel it makes things a bit clearer. The sentence is entirely made up on the spot, and to my knowledge has nothing to do with why they chose the name.

---Misfit 04:41, 3 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Link query

The link for Fred Walker goes to a US Army General by that name. Suspect this isn't the same guy ... ;-). Still a bit new here, so not sure how to fix it so you get one of those pages that gives you a choice of several people with the same name. Can someone fix this up? Jimc 21:23, 18 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Done. -- Tim Starling 00:44, Aug 21, 2003 (UTC)

Sales figures?

Today Vegemite far outsells Marmite and other similar spreads.

Should that not be qualified to "in Australia and New Zealand"? I'd have a very hard time believing that it outsold Marmite worldwide, since Marmite is vastly more common in Britain. Loganberry | Talk 14:23, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

How does it differ in taste from Marmite? Drutt 11:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

It's about halfway between Bovril and Marmite. Once you get used to Vegemite, Marmite seems incredibly aggressive. Greglocock 03:18, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

I wonder ...

Do Americans (and others) find Vegemite unpalatable because they don't know how to use it? My late Finnish grandfather was turned off of Vegemite because when he tried it on his toast he spread it as thick as peanut butter. He had no idea that only freaks would do such a thing - it's like trying to drink Wild Turkey as if it were beer. The vast majority of Vegemite eaters apply only a thin coating - it's strong stuff.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.28.23.129 (talk) 18:26, 21 June 2005 (UTC)

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Perhaps someone could include an explanation of what vegemite is made of, and what it actually tastes like. Currently, the article only mentions that it is "salty", which is pretty vague. --24.200.35.253 00:56, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Done ... except for describing the taste, which requires more linguistic skill than I possess. - DavidWBrooks 15:00, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

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I'm an American, and I love the stuff. I think that because Americans are not raised eating vegemite, trying it for the first time as an adult causes some reactions. Of the people I know here in America that have tried it...it comes down to you either love it or hate it. I do agree with you that I don't think Americans really know how to use it. Once you understand that you just don't pile it on a piece of toast like peanut butter, but use a very thin layer of it instead, more people will appreciate it. Another problem is that because it can only be found in a very few specialty shops, it's more ignorance than anything

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.246.2.6 (talk) 19:24, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Happy little vegemites!

If the lyrics to the "we're happy little Vegemites" jingle are correct (I'm not Australian and have never heard it during my visits there), I think they should be returned to the article - they're a wonderful detail that contributes to the idea of Vegemite being a half-silly, half-serious cultural icon. - DavidWBrooks 14:05, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I reverted the article to the last decent version. The recent changes to the article were poorly integrated and written. The lyrics were indeed correct, but a better way to incorporate them (other than in caps mid-sentence) needs to be found. Indeed, perhaps they're more suited to Wikisource.--cj | talk 04:24, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Isn't full reproduction of lyric copyright violation? Asa01 11:43, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

On an advertising jingle? I doubt the company or the ad agency will mind much. ;) Besides, at current, it also helps explain what's meant by the bit in the article above that states it is said to "put a rose in every cheek". Runa27 19:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

vegemite jingle, nutritional info, etc.

the vegemite jingle that i had added to this article was correct- i got it off of the official vegemite website. the nutritional information and the backround as to the origins of the name were also correct- and, considering how relevant to the topic they were, i am confused as to why you removed them. as for the taste, the best way i can describe it is almost like burnt beer- of course, i'm not a native eater of it and have only tried it a couple times. it is rather tasty as long as you don't use too much (i.e., you can still see the bread under it) and use lots of butter and cheese.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.254.146.80 (talk) 16:42, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

This needs a serious rewrite

This is an Australian born and made product - why are you trying to credit it's existance to America along with everything else? Even to the extent that you hide the Australia website address www.vegemite.com.au under the link www.vegemite.com so it looks American?

Give credit where credit is due. An Australian who actually knows what Vegemite is needs to rewrite this (as opposed to an American who has never even tasted it), and add in the correct facts regarding it's origin.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.50.141.159 (talk) 11:29, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Since the article's first reference to America is the second paragraph, and that just says it's owned by Kraft - and since I found the word "Australia" or variants 17 times, compred to four for "America" and variants, I'm not quite sure of your point. - DavidWBrooks 13:04, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Why is Americans' supposed distaste for this mentioned at all? I'm sure 99.9% of Americans have never heard of the stuff. I suggest removing the "particularly Americans" part of the sentence and leave it at that.

Good point - done. (Thanks to Men at Work, though, I'm sure the Amercian percentage of knowledge is higher than that) - DavidWBrooks 19:36, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, several ponits of this artical are in compeltely off the offical vegemite webpage, www.vegemite.com.au; a rewrite is needed. (Though I think American's dislike is valid, until we can find a source, is we should leave that off as well...)Engysback 06 May 2007

small point

The daughter's name is given as "Sheilah". Is that spelled correctly? I know there are variation on the name, but the one I usually encounter is "Sheila". --Kerowyn 23:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

The spelling with an H can be found on a ton of sites, and not just those that scrape from us. - DavidWBrooks 00:18, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Full lyrics

I can easily quote the full lyrics for the song from memory (what's on the page is only the first two lines), but what's the copyright status? It was first used in an ad in 1954, apparently, but I can find nothing on the person who wrote it which means I can't find out when it gets released into public domain under Australian laws. Confusing Manifestation 14:51, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, an anonymous editor has put the full lyrics in (although I always thought it was "our mummies say we're growing stronger"), but the question of copyright remains unanswered. Anyone? Confusing Manifestation 13:49, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

It does have 'our mummies say we're growing stronger', hell, i can recite the entire lyrics from beginning to end. "We're happy little vegemites as bright as bright can be, we all enjoy our vegemite for breakfast, lunch and tea, our mummies say we're growing stronger every single week, because we love our vegemite, we all enjoy our vegemite, it puts a rose in every cheek......" - Ray 07:10, 16 September 2007 (+8 GMT) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.6.20.173 (talk)

Ordering Vegemite

Where can I order Vegemite? As a devoted fan of salmiakki, I want to try what this salty spread tastes like.

(About the comment about 99.9% of Americans never having heard of Vegemite - I don't think 99.9% of Americans have heard of anything outside the USA. =) ) JIP | Talk 08:42, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Seconded :P.--cj | talk 08:47, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

It looks like there's a place called the About Australia Shop that's based in San Antonio that imports lots of Australian foods, so there are probably a couple of other places out there. Possibly Googling for vegemite + your state or a nearby city might give you a result or two. I would suggest getting your hands on as many of the other Australian foodstuffs as possible at the same time, if only to wash away the taste of the Vegemite (Tim Tams are highly recommended). Confusing Manifestation 11:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

If you're under the impression that I have a "state", then you might want to check my nationality at my userpage. JIP | Talk 12:15, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

I believe you misspelled "thank you for answering my query". - DavidWBrooks 22:42, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah yes, that too. I've now ordered a can, I'll have to see what it tastes like. JIP | Talk 08:29, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Deepest apologies. Despite being in the (probable majority) group of people living outside the US on the Internet, I still assume anyone who doesn't announce where they live is automatically American. Well, I think I heard of similar stores in the UK, and I'd be interested in hearing where you ordered your can from (I'm really hoping you mean jar, because I'm having trouble imagining cracking open a tin of Vegemite), especially if it's (relatively) local to you. Confusing Manifestation 13:02, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Stores like that do exist in the UK, but you can actually buy Vegemite at most supermarkets here, and even Tim Tams at some. JPD (talk) 14:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Don't worry about it. Oh, and thanks. I ordered the jar from the About Australia website. It cost me $3 for the jar and $21 for shipping. It should probably arrive within a week or two. I just hope Vegemite is as long-lasting as people say it is. I think I must be the first person in Finland to do this... =) JIP | Talk 15:23, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

...and maybe the last :). It's an acquired taste. I love it, but. It's best with toast or cheese.--cj | talk 15:38, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Actually, according to some, the best way to have Vegemite is to take a piece of bread, spread on a microscopically thin layer of Vegemite, smother it with butter, then throw away the bread and order take-out. (Note that I say this as someone who enjoys Vegemite occasionally, and stories like this are probably told just as much to reinforce the Vegemite legend.) Oh, and we're all looking forward to hearing JIP's report :) Confusing Manifestation 12:08, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

JIP, even though he assumed you were an American he was trying to help you and the rest of us out. probably shouldn't give him a hard time about it. Also, while many Americans are ignorant to things outside the US not all of us are so please don't make ignorant statements suggesting so. I'm an American and I've known about vegemeite since I was 10 years old (I'm now 22.) We aren't all idiots. If you want to bash Americans or America please at least be informed. (I realize this is all very off topic now) Bush may be making some crappy choices internationally and Americans may generally be ethnocentric but when people from other countries make generalized statements about us it is just as bad. have you been to America and lived with and interacted with Americans for any extended period of time? I sure haven't visited Finland so I'm not going to go make off-the-cuff remarks about your country or its citizenry. Just about half the country voted for Bush so only half the country is ignorant ;) I don't mean to rant but I'm tired of other countries (and their citizens) berating us for the mistakes of our elected leaders (which are not elected by 100% of the population). --DannyBoy7783 01:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I was reading further on your user page and noticed that you have only been to the US once and it was a long time ago. I would suggest you not comment on Americans in light of that fact. Comment on Bush. Comment on the government. Comment on the Americans you know or interact with...but don't comment on us as a whole. You don't know us. Thank you. --DannyBoy7783 01:45, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

That is a bit rude for both of you, free spech is wonderfull ask mister Bush. You can comment on us Aussies any way u want we dont care, also I've watched news hour with Jim Learer and Americans arnt that ignorant, they are the same as other people and cultures. All countries are good and bad.

Have fun eating Vegemite and just enjoy your life mate.Enlil Ninlil 05:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Aussies don't care if people make fun of them because no one really says anything bad about them. You guys have cool animals and great weather and a hip accent. Everyone, especially Europeans just thinks Americans are dumb. It's annoying. Free speech is great, I agree. But shouldn't we try and make educated opinions if we can? Free speech also lets me defend myself when I'm being insulted by someone who has no clue what they are talking about. JIP can live in his Scandinavian paradise and cast judgement on Americans if he wants to but it doesn't mean it is a fair opinion and it doesn't mean it should go unquestioned. Don't get me wrong. Plenty of Americans ARE dumb...but I live here and I see it every day so I'm in a position to judge Americans. --DannyBoy7783 06:08, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I understand your point, I have the same view on Australia, The Brown bear, Oppossum, American Alligator are just as good as our species. Here we are divided about the USA some think its good others bad like Vegemite. You will always get people who will judge before they know ALWAYS. Dumb people live here too. Amyway this is a forum on vegemite, and How do Twinkies Tast? Im curious. And eat Vegemite with Butter, tast better. Enlil Ninlil 06:19, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

I apologise for my generalisations about Americans which appeared insulting. George W. Bush, for example, might be an idiot, but that doesn't mean all Americans are stupid. I never thought my comments would provoke this much discussion. JIP | Talk 07:58, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey I am an Australain Wikipedian and I Don't Bag them. Just Because they have an average low IQ (wikipedia articles prove it) dosen't mean that they are all stupid. Hey a developed country with more than 200 million people some people have to be smart. Besides, I think about 80% of Americans haven't even left North America so you can't blame them for not knowing about vegimite. Americans also create and develop 90% of things in the devoloped world. So I do not hate Amercians or think that they are stupid.--Wikipeeeeedia (talk) 00:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Vegemite report

My jar of Vegemite arrived today morning and I tried it straight away. I bought some toast and spread a thin layer of Vegemite on one slice. It tasted bad. Not so bad that it would have been inedible and I would have vomited but it's still not a taste I like at all. I found it to be bearable if I don't let the Vegemite touch my tongue but actually savouring the Vegemite taste led to coughing reflexes. As I imagined, it was somewhat salty, but not overly so. It's mainly the yeasty taste that's most prominent. And they feed this to children in Australia? As a form of punishment? Or don't Australians develop taste buds at all? JIP | Talk 09:58, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

We do, but you see, the thing is, Australian taste buds are to normal human taste buds what the X-Men are to normal humans - mutant, with creepy superpowers. Confusing Manifestation 11:43, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

OK, first, was the toast liberally smeared with butter or margarine? If not, bad move. Second, when you said thin layer, did you mean 1mm (too thick for a first timer) or a broken glaze of a freaction of a milimeter? Third, Vegemite is very salty, in a climtae where people sweat much of the time, salt is good. Finally, Vegemite is an acquired taste, like most national/ethnic foods. (Personally, my favourite way to eat it is mixed/laid 50/50 with margarine on crackers) Alex Law 06:24, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

No, I didn't use butter, I spread the Vegemite on directly. And yes, it was a mere fraction of a millimeter. I spread only just enough for it to look dark brown on the toast. It didn't even form a solid layer but instead followed the porous structure of the toast. Perhaps I will have to use it with butter. The reason I'm addicted to salmiakki but find Vegemite awful is because I've been eating salmiakki since kindergarten, but only recently tried Vegemite. JIP | Talk 15:34, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is something to habituate to, I didn't like it as a kid, but developed a taste for it as I spent more time outdoors and sweating like a pig in Brisbane, Queensland. Salmiakki is hard to get here, but I have enjoyed it when I've stumbled on it (usually the Dutch rather than Finnish stuff). On an unrelated topic, there is an expatriot Finnish communtity in Brisbane, I used to do Judo as a kid in the Finnish Society Hall in Brisbane's (then) outer suburbs. Alex Law 10:02, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

As I get older I spread it thicker. The general consensus is that around 0.1mm is appropriate, with butter. My sisters always freak out when they see my spreading it 10 times the standard thickness (without butter). It is an acquired taste... and I could eat it by the spoonful. Best tasting brown gunk I ever ate.Quolnok 15:06, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

• What! I love to eat the stuff on a spoon, nothing else, mind u I dont eat a lot but yummy. I love it morning noon and night. Enlil Ninlil 03:58, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Apparently there are some non-Australians who try vegemite for the first time and love it. Well, I think there are; so far I'm the only one I know in that category. Had I seen this earlier I would have said expect to hate it and you won't be disappointed. Panchitaville^talk 05:32, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm one of those. Tried it the first time the way I'd seen it recommended, toast, butter, and just scare it with the Vegemite. "Hmm...not bad, but needs to be stronger." Ended up using about a half-teaspoon on a normal piece of sammich bread toast. Is good stuff, but very strong juju. --StarChaser Tyger 08:40, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Comparisons to Spam

I'm wondering if it would be appropriate to add a section to the article about this... Spam seeming to have the same love-it-or-hate-it qualities. A buddy of mine who grew up in Adelaide before moving to the states a decade ago even described Vegemite as 'the vegatable equivalent of spam. No one's really quite sure whats in it, but it'll keep alive for extended periods.' which also furthers the half-humorus/half-serious relationship must Austrailians seem to have with the product. -M^ask 03:14, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

• • Actually we span isnt that popular here so I'm not sure about the analysis. Spam is nice but I class it like ham or bacon. Maybe Peanut butter and jam is more the equivelant. I am a happy little vegemite today la la la. Enlil Ninlil 03:46, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, yes im aware of that. Just as Vegemites not all that popular here in America, but spam is (or atleast well known). Im thinking of ways to make a comparison for Americans to a product they've most likely never tasted :) -M^ask 04:18, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

• • • Well maye Twinkies we dont have here or Peanut butter and jam, YUCK, It definately aint popular here. Enlil Ninlil 05:43, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I think the twinkie (or Hostess in general) comparison might be apt. Those thinks are abominable. Americans like things really sweet for some reason. (A common refrain when I complain that a "food" tastes like pure sugar is: "But that's what makes it delicious." My hypothesis is that it's a taste most of us acquire from a steady diet of corn syrup based foods.) That said, Spam might work too, containing both sugar and reprocessed meat. --71.192.116.13 04:34, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

• • • • I'm not sure SPAM is a good comparison. Vegimite is the most vile thing I've ever put into my mouth under the false pretence that it was somehow "food". While Australians seem to be found of it (possibly they have no tongues, and therefor no taste buds?), the kind of reaction I gave above is typical of a North American to vegimite. While SPAM is fun to joke about, I don't think anyone would seriously choose the taste of Motor Oil over the taste of SPAM, whereas I can make no similar claim about vegimite. In conclusion, my rambles were around the point that SPAM is abhorred because of the concept, not really the taste, which is rather bland...unlike vegimite, where the revulsion comes from the taste. The horrible, soul-destroying taste.WilyD 21:19, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Well someone has a problem with Aussie food !, how about tripe, or intestines, chicken feet? The chinese hate rice pudding cause rice and milk dont go together. I think of vegemite as brussel sprouts, you dont eat it right it is crap as hell, or Avacardo the illegal fruit. Or Baked lamb and yogurt from Albania, what they dont go together. Have fun eating twinkies MATE. Enlil Ninlil 05:27, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

lol Well, I've eaten all those things you listed, and they're all at least edible. Vegemite, however, is perfectly described by WilyD's description.  :-) I was tricked into trying it once by an australian friend, and thereafter she was not to be trusted. Not really though, she's a great person, but vegemite is vile.

I've heard it said that vegemite is to Americans what Pickles are to Aussies. No basis for that whatsoever, just what I was told one time as a kid. Is that close to true? --72.202.156.159 02:54, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

To answer the actual question asked at the beginning of this topic (which hasn't happened yet in the entertaining but irrelevant water-cooler talk above), it is not appropriate to add comparison of Vegemite and Spam unless it has been already been done by reliable sources, from which we may summarize and/or quote. Unsourced "compare and contrast" essays are one of the most common forms of forbidden "original research" in Wikipedia. And please remember that article talk pages are provided to discuss the article content, not our personal opinions on the subject. (I'm such a killjoy, I know.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 07:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

pronunciation guide

The IPA pronunciation differs from the layperson's pronunciation guide: is it veg-ee-mite (with IPA [i]) or veg-ih-mite (with IPA [I])? or maybe veg-scwha-mite? I don't know what it should be but right now it's inconsistent.

uh.. veg as in vegetables, ee as in whee, mite as in might. veg ee mite. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.44.36.191 (talk) 19:52, 4 February 2007 (UTC).

I agree, there are at least two variations I've found, with [ɪ] and [ɘ]; I'm putting in an the non-schwa alternative. I haven't found sufficient support for [i] as well. 152.91.9.9 (talk) 22:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

There are rumors of black market vegemite producers and retailers in the United States who defy the American folate regulations. As a cover, these bootleg vegemite peddlers sometimes intentionally mispronounce or misspell vegmite phonetically in 4 syllables instead of 3 by calling it "VEG-IM-I-TEE" in retaliation against rude Australian tourists who mispronounce Yosemite National Park as "YOS-AH-MITE" National Park.

Yosemite National Park (pronounced "Yo-SEM-it-EE" NOT "yOsAh-MIGHT". Australians tend to forget that the last "E" is not silent because they're not use to pronouncing the "E" when they pronounce their popular national food product "vegemite" Vegemite is nothing more than beer yeast goo extract that has the shape, color, taste, and aroma and of roofing tar, that has no affiliation with Yosemite National Park whatsoever.

these are completely off topic 152.91.9.9 (talk) 22:44, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Hangovers

We need to mention that a principal use of vegemite is for dealing with hangovers. While it won't cure one, vegemite on toast (or even a fried egg on vegemite on toast) will certainly take the edge off. This is because it is "the world's richest known souce of Vitamin B" (cf Berocca) and high in salt, for replacing lost electrolytes.

There's also some delicious irony in that vegemite is made from surpluss yeast used in the manufacture of the product that most-likely caused your hangover in the first place.

As the great sage said: "Beer: the cause of, and answer to, all of life's problem."

Thetan 14:04, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Two pieces of Vegemite toast and a big glass of Berocca with ice. Perfect hangover breakfast. Natgoo 15:14, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Weird Note...

Okay well, I was taught from as long as I can remember that when you bite your tongue and a sore forms on it (I'm not sure exactly what the bumps that form on your tongue are called), you can rub Vegemite on it, the sore then reduces in size, it is the same effect as when you use Bonjela (There's a wiki article on it if you don't know what it is). I just thought it was worth a note somewhere, and an explanation, I find it very odd that a spread should have the same effect as a specifically created medication.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.217.138.140 (talk) 12:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Most sores that form in the mouth are cold sores, but those are viral in nature; what you're talking about sounds more like swelling or a mild infection of some other sort, seeing as you specifically mentioned "biting" the tongue first as the cause of it.

Actually 'most sores that form in the mouth are cold sores' isn't correct - aphthous and traumatic ulcers are the most common sore inside the mouth. Cold sores (caused by the herpes simplex virus) do occur in and around the mouth, but in fewer people than run-of-the-mill aphthous ulcers. Not really on topic, but thought I'd mention it :) 124.169.77.116 (talk) 16:45, 28 November 2007 (UTC)DrC

Anyway, I would assume that if it did reduce the swelling, it would be something to do with the salty nature of it, since salt has a habit of drying stuff out (certain types of just-below-the-epidermis infections need to be cleaned AND dried in order to get rid of them; I know because my mom not long ago had a nasty one on her back that stayed for weeks and wouldn't go away until the doctor drained it and filled it with cotton balls to dry it out), but I'm not sure. It could be an old wives' tale though. ;) Runa27 19:38, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

vegemite goes with everything

vegemite and peanut butter OR honey OR jam OR cheese sandwich vegemite on raisin/fruit toast vegemite and poached eggs on toast vegemite also goes in gravy for a richer taste. vegemite solo, but you've gotta be tough for that. damn i want some vegemite. --Ballchef 13:22, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Bloody hell mate, are you Ok, I'll call a doctor cause you eat the stuff with anything, maybe with a Witchetty grub or 2. Horroo Enlil Ninlil 05:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Ways to enjoy Vegemite? - Might be worth developing a section in the article with wierd ways we enjoy Vegemite. - Brown bread, vegemite, salt and vinegar chips (crinkle cut) --Aus911 20:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC) - -

That'd be good, the only problem being that if it was just ways that we (ie. Wikipedia editors) enjoy it, that's original research (WP:OR). If there's some kind of study on what people eat Vegemite with, that would be perfect. Confusing Manifestation 05:25, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I hate to eat vegemite with an Egg tart discusting, maybe with Pork bun then. Enlil Ninlil 06:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Vegemite Ban in US?

I'm not aware of exactly why the USDA banned vegemite, but it appears as if the editor doesn't know either. If offers one of two possible explanations. Somebody who can find out the exact reason for its ban needs to edit this page. Rrten00 21:36, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, the FDA decided that folic acid has a maximum safe dose of 1 mg per day (well below the 5 mg used in the UK). At the same time, they feel that women of child bearing age should get at least .4 mg per day. Because of the narrow "safe range", folic acid additives are controlled rather tightly, presumably so that people don't accidentally exceed the limit. They explain it, in rather dense language, in this publication. Because Vegemite doesn't fall into the allowed catagories (cereals or wheat foods), and it is apparently fortified with folic acid, it's banned. This rule has been in place since 1996, but the enforcement is new. Gjc8 07:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

It seems odd that the FDA site doesn't seem to have any obvious mention of vegemite being banned. No news release on the Kraft site either. I think we need some cites that are not wiki or news.com sourced. --Bcsr4ever 10:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Excellent points, which is why I've removed the section. Unless cites are provided, I'd say we have a sample of Bored College Kid Syndrome. - DavidWBrooks 12:12, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Vegemite ban, follow-up - The item is mentioned by a reputable news source that an anon has pointed to [1], but the article includes no sourcing at all, just vague mentions of "Australian expatriates in the US") - and a long hunt of the FDA Web site finds no mention of a ban. Other sources that I could find online only cited wikipedia; I can't find any independence confirmation (which doesn't mean the ban isn't true, of course - just that there's no source material we can point to.) By the way, the "ban" was also mentioned in the Folic acid article, and that article has been cited on other Web sites; I've removed it from there for the same reason. - DavidWBrooks 15:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

I've removed it yet again - we need a better source than a single news article that cites no sources of its own. It may be true, or it may be somewhat true (e.g., some Vegemite isn't let in, but not for folic acid) or it might be a load of bollocks. Since other Web sites are citing wikipedia about this, we need to find confirmation. - DavidWBrooks 19:17, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

From what I've been able to infer, it might be because it contains too much folic acid, not that it contains it at all. See [2] for some possibly useful detail. --moof 22:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

This article is from 2001 and doesn't specifically mention the sudden October 21 ban on vegemite. It may be true, but I just find it odd there isn't more mention of it in news articles, especially from sources I trust. For example I can't find anything on the Australian ABC news about it, and can't find any statement direct from Kraft... So is it an official ban, or was it just some over enthusiastic customs officers? --Bcsr4ever 03:28, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Since the article showed up yet again, I added a bit about the dubiousness of the source. Lots of things seem odd about the article. For example, in the spokesperson for Kraft is the UK PR person, not the Australian (or American) PR person, and while everyone is saying that Vegemite is banned, you can still purchase it online (and reports have it on the shelves of speciality American supermarkets such as Whole Foods). Ditto Marmite, which should also be under this ban. And the Kraft Australia website still lists sources for vegemite in the US.

And there is no "folic acid" ban. It should not be phrased as such, so I've changed it.

And as for the discussion of whether the fortification rules are affecting vegemite, keep in mind that the upper "safe" limit is still way above the average amount per serving specified by Kraft -- 100 micrograms according to the site I looked up. That means you'd have to eat something like 10 vegemite sandwiches before you reach the FDA unsafe level, which is still well below what most scientists think is the true danger level.

I don't think this is real, and until there's a statement from the FDA or ICE or some other government agency saying there's a ban, I think this article is dubious and spurious. And I hate vegemite, but I'll go to Whole Foods tomorrow and buy a jar just to prove there's no ban. --D Wilbanks 06:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

The source for the ban information is backpedaling. The only source that ever claimed that there was a ban is now simply claiming that sources say there is a ban. [3]

There's even a savevegemite.com website. Yay unto the Chicken 12:21, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Vegemite is not banned in the US. Confirmed by the FDA today. See [4]. --D Wilbanks 21:44, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

While following this story over the past few days, I've noticed there was only a single named source for the "vegemite seizings at border" story. Daniel Fogarty was allegedly asked if he had any vegemite. No mention of threats of seizure, no actual seizure, and no other travellers corroborating tales of confiscation. [5] I'm guessing it's highly likely that that particular border guard was just telling an ill-advised joke and they took it seriously enough to phone Australian news agencies over it. --SabreMau 08:27, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Then shame on the reporter - and his/her editors - for overwriting it. Bored and looking for weekend copy, I suspect. - DavidWBrooks 11:05, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply from Kraft Foods

Thank you for contacting Kraft Foods via our website feedback form.

Kraft actually stopped exporting Vegemite to the USA about 12 months ago after the US FDA ruled that Vegemite's folate fortification was not allowed under US regulations, which stipulates folate fortification only in certain kinds of foods (which did not include spreads like Vegemite). However, US consumers may still purchase Vegemite from a number of online US-based retailers:

Australian Catalogue Company www.aussiecatalog.com Aussie Products www.aussieproducts.com Everything Australian http://www.everythingaustralian.com/ausfood.html

In terms of voicing your concerns about Vegemite may we suggest you visit the FDA website at http://www.fda.gov/ and follow the links.

We thank you for visiting our website and if you require any further assistance concerning this issue please do not hesitate to contact our Consumer Advisory Service via email at australia@kraftasia.com.

Kind regards Deanne Pownall Kraft Foods Limited Consumer Advisory Team

-MSTCrow 13:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

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More recent reply from Kraft Foods

Jan 10, 2007 2:10 PM

Dear Mr F------,

Kraft Foods Australia/New Zealand can confirm that the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has not taken any action to stop the import of Vegemite into the United States.

Further, the regulatory authorities in Australia and the US have confirmed that there are no custom restrictions directed at travellers who may wish to take jars of Vegemite to the US.

I hope this information assists you and if you require any further information please do not hesitate to contact the Kraft Advisory Team on freecall 1800 033 275.

Yours faithfully Barbara Meehan KRAFT FOODS AUSTRALIA

NotElvis 05:28, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

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And this... Jan 12, 2007 9:09 AM

Good Morning Andrew,

Vegemite is not exported to North America at this time.

Kind Regards Barbara Meehan NotElvis 23:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

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U.S. Customs and Border Protection dispels the rumor of a vegemite ban on their website: http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/newsroom/highlights/inthenews/cbp_responds/rumor.xml Why is CBP Seizing Vegemite?

(10/31/2006)Rumor: CBP is seizing vegemite at the border because of its added folate.

Fact: The Code of Federal Regulations #172.345 allows folate to be added to a small number of foods, but vegemite is not one of them. However, according to the Food and Drug Administration, that there is no known prohibition on the importation of vegemite.

Therefore, there is no official policy within CBP targeting vegemite for interception.

World Market stores in Jacksonville, FL still have stocks of Vegemite, so I seriously doubt there was a ban.

good heads up on the ban myth!

Good job! to whoever caught the myth about the ban. It was reported as fact in our local newspaper! In know this is just a minor news item, but I think it is so great when Wikipedia gets it right when the other media gets it wrong. --Calan 05:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Suitable for vegans?

The marmite article mentions that it is suitable for vegetarians and vegans, but this article does not. Maybe this could be mentioned? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.171.180.101 (talk) 13:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

nutritional info

Please? We know from the article that it contains Vitamin B and salt, but little else. --M@rēino 21:08, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Kraft appears to keep the ingredients a closely guarded secret, or they just are too lazy to post them on their corporate website. Someone should buy a bottle of the stuff and take a picture of label. - MSTCrow 14:19, 27 October 2006 (UTC)7

The text of a bottle of the ingredients is clearly labeled! Someone keeps censoring every attempt I make to add this to the site.

"INGREDIENTS: YEAST EXTRACT, SALT, POTASSIUM CHORIDE, MALT EXTRACT COLOUR (E150d) (CONTAINS PRESERVATIVE (Sulfur Dioxide), VEGETABLE EXTRACT (CONTAINS ONION), NIACIN, THIAMIN, RIBOFLAVIN, FOLIC ACID. "

The label does spell Sulfur Dioxide as "Sulphur Dioxide" but its the same thing. Sulfur dioxide is an allergan and does have health risks. Links about this fact are censored and edited too.

"Sulfur" is the US spelling. It is spelt "Sulphur" in the ingredients list because it is UK/AUS spelling. 58.111.180.215 (talk) 06:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Vegemite Reggae

80's reggae band? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.126.168.137 (talk) 21:38, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Vegemite and Kraft

I do not understand this: "The brand is now owned by Kraft Foods, an American multinational that is part of the Altria Group of companies...". According to the Vegemite website, Kraft has owned Vegemite since at least the 30's, possibly even earlier. Vegemite was produced by the Fred Walker Cheese Company, which later became the Kraft Walker Cheese Company and then just Kraft? Ok, I checked the Kraft site, apparently the American company Kraft Cheese "aquired and interest" in the Fred Walker and Co in 1923 when Fred Walker and Co first produced vegimite. I don't know when Fred Walker and Co was completely pushed out, but it happened a very long time ago.OzoneO 23:12, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I took out the "now", added the 1923 reference - also did a little re-arranging of the article. - DavidWBrooks 02:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

After his death his business was absorbed by the Kraft Walker Cheese Co. in which the American Kraft Co. had the major shareholding.

from Australian Dictonary

so its according to that its after 1935. It would be nice to have a clearer history of the the Kraft Walker Cheese company/ Kraft Foods Inc (in Australia)/ Walker Chease Company. It would appear (although I am still unable to find any reference, that Kraft Foods in Australia ( who a magor shareholdwer was Kraft Foods in the USA at somestage was completly obsorbed by Kraft Foods in the USA.

according to Kraft Foods

In 1950 the Kraft Walker Cheese Company became Kraft Foods Ltd. The year 1950 marks a new era in cheese-making when Kraft becomes the first company in Australia to manufacture and market rindless cheese

Although the name changed it does not indicate that Kraft in the USA gained any more of the company at that stage.

--124.150.80.158 (talk) 02:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Rocket Power

When I first heard of Vegemite was in a 1 hour special of Rocket Power where they went to New Zealand and I'm pretty sure it's how most of "my generation" (I guess that's what you'd call it [I'm a '90s kid for anyone that's curious]) was introduced to Vegemite. It was a recurring thing in the episode because Tito was in love with the stuff (however, the rest of the group thought it was gross) and I don't even think there was a scene with him that went by without him eating a Vegemite sandwich and when the went back home he took a whole crate back home (if I remember correctly) and there was also the theme song "Vegemite, yum yum morning, noon, and night!" from a commercial.

Do you think this is important enough to be included in the article under "Popular Culture"? I'm sure I could probably find a cite for it. Teh darkcloud 00:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

Dude, it's a "Popular Culture" section. Go crazy.  ;) Ichormosquito 03:54, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

Vegemite's Taste

Now there was a big argument about wether or not vegemite was an acquired taste. The line was tossed around that it isn't an acquired taste simply because Americans like sugar and dislike salt. Now here's an American that dislikes sugar, and loves salt. When I make Spaghetti, I fill it with so many spices that anyone else wo has ever eaten had to so with a glass of water in hand, but I love it. Now when I first tasted Vegemite, I did not think that it was very salty. I thought I was going to puke. It was the most bitter thing I had ever tasted. Rock salt is more edible than vegemite. Now, there are alot of foods I don't like that I can understand others liking. Vegemite isn't one of those foods. But, whatever. It's fine if people like. I just sincerely hope that no one sees this article and says "I think I'll give it a try," without knowing that it is, as a matter of fact, a very polarized food. It really should be noted, maybe with just a note on how it is popular in Australia and less popular in America, or whatever. Von Fiedler 11:40, 28 April 2007

You read the article, right? This is in the second paragraph: "However, it is not liked by all Australians — some find it far too salty to be palatable — and it has not been successfully marketed elsewhere, with some developing an intense dislike to Vegemite's distinctive taste." - DavidWBrooks 15:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I tried Vegemite yesterday and apart from it being thicker than Marmite there really was no difference in taste. Think outside the box 12:03, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Silly American, you've got to spread it on lightly with some butter. It's not that Americans don't like salt; it's just that they like they're food in vast quantities, and Vegemite won't taste good like that. 60.241.28.54 13:10, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Butter, yes, and/or cheese but the true blue fan spreads it thick. JЇѦρ 15:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Sweetness

Vegemite is only less sweet than the New Zealand version of Marmite, the British version contains no sugar or sweetener and is not sweet at all. I have modified the article to clarify this.

—Preceding unsigned comment added by TomWoodhams (talk • contribs) 22:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Gluten?

Does Vegemite contain gluten? No grain products are mentioned in the list of ingredients, however, "malt extract colouring" could contain some gluten, and since it's a by-product of making beer, it could very well be unsuitable for coeliacs. Does anyone know? Do I dare try it?82.99.21.74 (talk) 10:37, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

That's a good question, but I suspect that an email to Kraft is likely to give a more definitive answer than anyone here can offer. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 21:59, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

GA failed

I have failed this as a good article candidate for the following reasons:

• I don't think that the referencing is enough;
• There is one sentence on the manufacture. How is this stuff made exactly?

These are less significant and had these been the only faults with the article I would not have failed it:

• Additional versions (eg. diet, different spice additives)
• The popular culture section, while I agree that vegemite is important in Australian culture, is unreferenced and some may call it trivia.

I hope that these issues are resolved soon so the article can be renominated to GA. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 04:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Tastes like Soy Sauce to me

After my summer exchange to Australia, I always described Vegemite as a paste that tastes like concentrated Soy Sauce. Do you agree or disagree? Soy Sauce uses fermented soybeans that give it a similar bitterness, not to mention the salt in both. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carl Ponder (talk • contribs) 07:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Talk pages are for discussing the article, not the topic - I'm sure there are lots of forums on the Web for sharing opinions of Vegemite. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 10:54, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

TAI TV

In a recent episode of TAI TV (a mini TV-show released on the web about The Academy is..), Michael Guy Chislett and William Beckett went around and had members of other bands and parts of the crew taste test Vegemite. Should we put that under Popular Culture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.48.26 (talk) 00:13, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

MSG?

I just reverted an IP edit that claimed Vegemite contains MSG? I can find no reference to this additive in the nutrition information on the jar. I see it does contain a mineral salt (508), a colour (150d) and a preservative (220). No sign of MSG (621) though.--Sting Buzz Me... 23:03, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Comparison of taste

Could someone who has eaten both Vegemite and Marmite give a comparison of their different taste? Think outside the box 12:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

That would be inappropriate to add to the article, as it would constitute original research. If someone could provide references to an external document making such a comparison, that might be helpful. Burntsauce 21:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

I didn't mean in the article, I meant here, just for fun sort of thing. Think outside the box 11:05, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

No, please. Talk pages are for discussion about the article, not the subject - otherwise they turn into chatty forums; they are loads of places on the Web for that sort of stuff. - DavidWBrooks 13:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

If Vegemite is simply relabelled Marmite it's highly relevant to the article and should be mentioned. Drutt 17:13, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

I don't see why we can't talk about the taste? Its not like I'm going to go on about what I did last saturday. Think outside the box 11:32, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

You can, in the sense that nobody's going to block you from wikipedia for doing it, but I hope you don't. Chit-chat about personal experiences isn't the point of these Talk pages, and wading through it ("Well, I think it tastes worse than Marmite") makes it hard to find queries/issues about the article itself. I'm sure there are Vegemite fan pages where this can be discussed at length. On the other hand, if there is objective information that, say, Marmite and Vegemite are the same stuff - something other than commentary on their respective flavors - that would be interesting for the article. - DavidWBrooks 16:01, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

I see your point. I think the question "Is Marmite and Vegemite are the same stuff" is basically where this was going. As for there being Vegemite fan pages... Think outside the box 09:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Vegemite and (NZ) Marmite are not the same. Vegemite is much saltier and marmite is somewhat sweeter and more tolerable. I haven't tried British Marmite, but I hear it's much saltier than Vegemite.61.9.246.247 (talk) 09:21, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

UK Marmite does indeed have a stronger, saltier flavour than Vegemite. UK Marmite eaters tend to think Vegemite tastes bland and more of it is needed to get a decent hit. Aussies think Marmite tastes harsh and 'wrong'. The comparison is easy to make in Britain since both products are widely sold in UK supermarkets. I've never tasted NZ Marmite. --Ef80 (talk) 11:10, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

new vegemite product, advertising?

The section of the article that talks about the introduction of a new type of vegemite reads a lot like an advertisement. I don't think it should be removed entirely, but the wording needs to be fixed at the very least.

Suggestions? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.179.84.248 (talk) 01:13, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Is this manufactured in Australia, NZ or both?

Two of the photos in the article show a jar of vegemite with an "NZ Made" kiwi logo. This is odd, as I always thought vegemite was only manufactured in Australia. I checked out Kraft's website, but it doesn't say where the stuff is made.

Can anyone clarify this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.143.59.28 (talk) 12:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Vegemite was made in NZ for many years. But recently (within the last few years) the Vegemite available in NZ has been Australian made. This was made evident by the reversion to glass rather than Plastic jars. 121.73.90.127 (talk) 06:06, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

I buy vegemite from different retailers in Canada and the glass jar sometimes says manufactured in Australia, sometimes NZ. 70.77.220.229 (talk) 17:13, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

See also: Natto ???

Why is Natto a link in the "See also" section of this article? That's like having Fried Rice in the "See also" section of the Marmalade article. -- Moondigger (talk) 21:06, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't know the motivations of the person who made the addition, but I can offer an explanation: Natto is another food strongly associated with a particular country, with a very pungent savoury flavour, and regarded as a "rite of passage" for visitors to that country. 150.101.214.82 (talk) 08:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

American Spelling?! I don't think so.

This article contains a few American English spelling varients. Considering that Vegemite is such a fundamentally Australian product and icon, and in accordance with the Wikipedia Manner of Style regarding articles bearing strong national ties with English-speaking countries (See WP:ENGVAR), I am going change the American spellings to their far more adequate Australian English equivalents. Gilly of III (talk) 16:35, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

D'oh. I meant "Manual of Style", rather than "Manner of Style". Gilly of III (talk) 16:37, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Hillary Clinton bit

I don't think that this is really notable as it was listed before, but it could be useful in a different context:

Secretary of State Hilary Clinton asked in 2010 during an appearance at Melbourne University why you would ruin a perfectly good slice of bread with Vegemite? [6][7]

I considered it worth "storing" on the talk page for potential future use after it was removed from the article. SchuminWeb (Talk) 17:00, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Banned from sale in Denmark?

Food laws passed in 2004 concerning added vitamins may effectively prohibit the sale of Vegemite in Denmark [8]. There seems to be some uncertainty about the exact position at the moment, though, so I don't suppose it could be added to the article yet [9] Ka Faraq Gatri (talk) 18:47, 25 May 2011 (UTC)