Talk:Used good

Disambig or Delete?

I tied to clean up this page but it's still a mess. Maybe it should be a disambiguation page, or maybe it should just be deleted/redirected to wiktionary? Ewlyahoocom 13:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC) did something before

It seems fine now anyway, and it's certainly a very notable topic, so deletion is out of the question. Richard001 20:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Moved from used goods

I've moved the article here to remove the plural in the original page's title as per naming conventions. Richard001 05:52, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

wouldn't it make more sense to call this Second Hand as this seams to be the general term its known by? (the exsisting article could be renamed with the artist of the album upfront)--Thai-flower 20:57, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Going by Google results used good is by far more common, so this is probably the best name for the article Richard001 07:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

alright then, guess i didnt do my research*g*--Thai-flower 03:12, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

used good seems more accurate, however I'd support setting up a Second hand disambiguation page that links here and to the album, Second Hand (album) or Mark Heard - Second Hand, as "Second hand" is a farily commmon term in some regions. In fact, on April 14, 2007, a google search for "Used goods" returns 'about' 486,000 hits, while "Second hand goods" returns 496,000 hits and "Second Hand" -album -smoke" returns 3,400,000. (conversely, and in support of the current name, "Used clothing" retuns 788,000, "second hand clothing" returns 140,000, "Second hand car" returns 437,000, while used car returns 5,900,000. I'm also going to add the euphemism 'preloved' somewhere in the page. Jethero^Talk 18:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Topics to add

• Computer as goods

That's rather specific, perhaps something on used electronic goods in general? Richard001 07:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

sure that would be a start. just thought this needs to be added as there are other examples for used goods given.--Thai-flower 03:10, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

Markets

"Used clothes unsuitable for sale in America or Eastern Europe may still find a buyer in Africa or another continent"

IMLE this is untrue. Long distance export is not a cheap activity and the export of low value clothing is thus pointless. A lot of clothes successfully sold in UK and US would not be worth exporting to Africa. Tabby 23:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

disagree, because the statement said 'may'. However, I inuitively agree with your assessment. I previously softened/weakened the language even further a little while back, but if you have some references, you could strengthen the statement considerably. Jethero^Talk 19:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

WR African traders tend not to post business details that arent going to make them a profit online. Tabby 00:44, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

Toronto SUN citation

Although I added this myself, I'm not happy with this as a reference becasue it requires a $10 payment to read the full story (although the 'fact' seems to be reiterated in the free lead-in). This is relevant quote, as published on this Salvation Army webpage, from the full text:

A recent article in The Toronto Sun had this to say about people making money off of your used-clothes donations.

• A number of firms operate bins for profit only. • Only a few charities, such as The Salvation Army, Canadian Diabetes Association, and Goodwill Industries, operate their own boxes, with all proceeds going to the respective agencies. • “The majority of used clothing boxes are scams,” said Councillor Howard Moscoe. “They pretend to support charitable purposes. The fact of the matter is the vast majority don’t or they do so marginally,” he said. Next time you donate your used-clothes make sure you know where it’s going.

so if someone has something better, please provide it! If someone wants to do some digging, this might make a nice section called "For Profit vs. Charitable used clothing redistribution" Jethero^Talk 19:13, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

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Pre owned videogames

Second hand video games would be a very useful section to add to this article. It could cover the legality and to a smaller extent the morality of buying and selling second hand games, as well as touching on legality of ownership (or lack of ownership) when a consumer purchases something. In the context of video games this has been widely covered by notable observers as well as sources from the actual actions of publishers and platform holders (in the case of Sony considering a ban on preowned games by making a game "register" to a console for the first and only time). I believe this section could be an educational and stimulating addition for the subject of ownership and used goods. I will work on drafting up something now, but any input anyone else has would be greatly appreciated. JayKeaton (talk) 15:34, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

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Uncited material in need of citations

I am moving the following uncited material here until it can be properly supported with inline citations of reliable, secondary sources, per WP:V, WP:CS, WP:IRS, WP:PSTS, WP:BLP, WP:NOR, et al. This diff shows where it was in the article. Nightscream (talk) 21:59, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Lead section

A used good may also simply mean it is no longer in the same condition as it was transferred to the current owner. When the term used means that an item has expended its purpose (such as a used diaper), it is typically called garbage instead.

Used goods may be transferred informally between friends and family for free as hand-me-downs. They may be sold for a fraction of their original price at garage sales, in bazaar-style fundraisers, in privately-owned consignment shops, or through online auctions. Some things are typically sold in specialized shops, such as a car dealership that specializes in the sale of used vehicles or a used bookstore that sells used books. In other cases, such as a charity shop, a wide variety of used goods might be handled by the same establishment. High-value used luxury goods, such as antique furniture, jewelry, watches, and artwork, might be sold through a generic auction house such as Sotheby's, more specialized niches or privately-owned auction marketplaces.

Governments require some used goods to be sold through regulated markets, as in the case of items that have safety and legal issues, such as used firearms or cars. For such items, government licensing bodies require certification and registration of the sale to prevent the sale of stolen, unregistered, or unsafe goods. For some high-value used goods, such as cars and motorcycles, governments regulate sales of used goods to ensure that the government gets its sales tax revenue from the sale.

Benefits

Secondhand goods can benefit the purchaser as the price paid is lower than that of the same items bought new. If the reduction in price more than compensates for the possibly shorter remaining lifetime, lack of warranty, and so on, there is a net benefit.

Risks

Secondhand goods may have faults which are not apparent even if examined; purchasing sight unseen, for example, from an Internet auction site, has further unknowns. Goods may cause problems beyond their value; for example, furntiure with bed bugs may cause an infestation that is difficult and expensive to eradicate. Faulty electrical and mechanical goods can be hazardous and dangerous. This is especially a significant issue if sold to countries that do not have recycling facilities for these devices, which has led to an issue with electronic waste.

Types of transfers

United States taxpayers can deduct donations of used goods to charitable organizations. Both Goodwill Industries and the Salvation Army websites have lists of items with their estimated range of values. Another way that people transfer used goods is by giving them to friends or relatives. When a person gives an item of some value that they have used to someone else, such as a used car or a winter coat, it is sometimes referred to as a "hand-me-down".

Used items can often be found for sale in thrift stores and pawnshops, auctions, garage sales, and in more recent times online auctions. Some stores sell both new and used goods (e.g. car dealerships), while others only sell new goods but may take used items in exchange for credit toward the purchase of newer goods. For example, some musical instrument stores and high-end audio stores only sell new gear, but they will accept good quality used items as trade-ins towards the purchase of new items; after the store purchases the used items, they then sell them using online auctions or other services.

When an item is no longer of use to a person they may sell or pawn it, especially when they are in need of money. Items can also be sold (or taken away free of cost) as scrap (e.g. a broken-down old car will be towed away for free for its scrap metal value). Owners may sell the good themselves or to a dealer who then sells it on for a profit. They may also choose to give it away to another person this is often referred to as freecycling. However, because the process takes some effort on part of the owner they may simply keep possession of it or dump it at a landfill instead of going to the trouble of selling it. It has been common to buy secondhand or used good on markets or bazaars for a long time. When the web became popular, it became common with websites such as eBay and Yahoo! Classifieds.

Purchases

The strategy of buying used items is employed by some to save money, as they are typically worth less than the equivalent new items. Purchasing used items for reuse prevents them from becoming waste and saves the costly production of equivalent new goods. Motivations for purchase include conserving natural resources and protecting the environment, and may form part of a simple living plan.

Types

Cars

Main article: Used car

Used cars are especially notable for depreciating in value much faster than many other items. Used cars may have been bought or leased by their previous user, and may be purchased directly from the previous owner or through a dealer. George Akerlof published a paper entitled "The Market for Lemons", examining the effects of information asymmetry on the used car market. Used cars may require more maintenance or have fewer features than later equivalent models.

Books

Main article: Used book

Used books are often re-sold through a used bookstore. They may also be given away, perhaps as part of a program such as the Little Free Library's programs. Used bookstores may also sell secondhand music recordings or videos.

Used clothing

A dress agent will often deal with a buyer and seller directly, taking unwanted clothes that still have value, and reselling them in a shop.

Other items

Vintage guitars also became increasingly desired objects among musicians and collectors during the nineties and subsequently Some music stores specialize in selling used musical instruments, used copies of printed music, and related paraphernalia.

Hand-me-down

I've just discovered that Hand me down and Hand-me-down redirect here. However, the article at the moment doesn't mention either the term or the concept.

By looking at the page history, I have discovered that at the time the redirect was created [1] there was a mention of it in the lead. This was soon expanded into a section [2] but it was subsequently trimmed down severely [3] and then removed completely.

Furthermore, the sense given is totally different from what I've always understood the term to mean. OK, so what I've always understood is a case of a person giving something to a family member, but that's where the similarity ends. The sense I'm referring to is that of an item of clothing passed between siblings, the younger sibling acquiring the garment when the older sibling has outgrown it. This clearly has nothing to do with London markets in which cheaper, second-hand clothes were held on higher racks and had to be got down – the term simply refers to clothes being handed 'down' the family. I've always interpreted Sandi Thom's song as referring to this, and still doubt that it was talking about clothes purchased second-hand from East End market stalls.

So I'm wondering if there ought to be something in the article about this concept. What do you think? — Smjg (talk) 12:55, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

Mobility chair

Are you doing the mobility chair for 39 pound in England 90.254.237.75 (talk) 18:35, 12 August 2022 (UTC)