Talk:Use Me

Latest comment: 16 years ago by Jerzy in topic Lack of articles
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History of the accompanying main-namespace page

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The page has to date always be a Rdr. (Listed oldest first):

  • 06:04, 11 September 2007 TBSfan1223 (27 bytes) (←Redirected page to The Use Me EP)
  • 01:17, 25 October 2007 TravelingCat (26 bytes) (←Redirected page to Bill Withers)
  • 08:34, 31 March 2008 Lily1104 (28 bytes) (←Redirected page to Garbage (band))
  • 22:25, 5 April 2008 24.21.187.91 (←Blanked the page)
  • 22:25, 5 April 2008 ClueBot m (28 bytes) (Reverting possible vandalism by 24.21.187.91 to version by Lily1104. False positive? Report it. Thanks, User:ClueBot. (306921) (Bot))

The only one of these whose logic is not immediately apparent is Garbage (band), since that article makes no hint of a connection to the phrase "use me". The only logic lies in its mention in Beautiful Garbage, an album that does not include such a song, but whose promotional campaign, if i read it right, included release of a "Use Me" among

bonus cuts on the groups [sic] international singles.

Among the first 100 G-hits among

91,100 for "Use Me" lyrics OR written

there seems to be about 34 different artists or lyricists:

"Use Me", by Bill Withers

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The first is Bill Withers, to whom the article attributes the lyrics he recorded in his 1972 single, which begin

My friends feel it's their appointed duty
They keep trying to tell me all you want to do is use me

For these lyrics we have

  1. Bill Withers
  2. Fiona Apple
  3. Hootie & the Blowfish
  4. Aaron Neville
  5. Widespread Panic
  6. Grace Jones
  7. Lenny Kravitz, in a duet with Mick Jagger
  8. Mick Jagger
  9. Al Jarreau
  10. Anchorman (music)
  11. Eran James
  12. Coolbone

"Use Me", by Ron Kenoly (& al.?)

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If You can use anything Lord
You can use me
  1. Kenoly Ron
  2. Gospel Music Workshop of America Mass Choir
  3. Brooklyn Tabernacle Choir
  4. "Dewitt Jones, Ron Kenoly"
  5. Motor City Mass Choir "(written by Dewitt Jones x, Kim Jones x, and Ron Kenoly)"

Other songs with same title

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  1. Another set of lyrics with that title begin
    Son of God come in
    Take away my sin
    Draw me closer
    So I'm never away from you
  2. Yet another:
    On myself You cannot depend
    I've already failed You time and again
  3. Another:
    Use me, teach me
    Use me, teach me
    Love, look what You've done to me
    Not a sound, snuck up on me
    Use me, I'm beautiful
    Take me, I'm yours
    Hurt me, it feels
    like medicine
    And all I deserve
  4. Another:
    Miss joker, joker laughing at me,
    Ohhh, 'cause I know all of your schemes lately,
    Like the way you move your hip,
    Seductive licks for the money clip.
  5. Another:
    So you've messed it up
    Don't know when to stop
    Said more than enough
  6. Another:
    ...
    I'll let you use me
    So don't play games with me
    Kiss me like you mean it here tonight
  7. Another:
    Use me
    Use me baby
  8. Another: (In the chorus#: )
    Use me as an instrument of praise
    (so I might praise Your name)
    and it won't be in vain.
  9. Another:
    Choose me
    Use me
    Don't lose and abuse me
  10. Another: (In several choruses#: )
    feel me
    wear me
    use me

Other songs using the phrase

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(Mostly of interest to demonstrate the appropriateness of ignoring them.) Under the title "All Of This" a chorus has

Use me Holly come on and use me
We know where we go
  1. Blink-182

Under the title "Could You Use Me?"

...
Oh, lady would you -
Oh, telI me, could you use me?
  1. (from the musical Crazy for You, by the Gershwins)

Under the title "Do They See Jesus In Me?"

...
It's amazing that you'd ever use me
But use me the way You will
  1. ?
  2. Joy Williams

Under the title "Jesus, Use Me"

Jesus, use me,
Oh Lord don't refuse me
  1. ?


Under the title "Just abuse me"

I'll let you use me
And just abuse me
But girl I want you to be mine
  1. Air Traffic

Under the title "Say you love Me" (in two lines)

... if you use me again it'll be the end of me
  1. Fleetwood Mac


Under the title "Take Me" (In chorus:)

Take me, I’ll be your woman
Use me, make me your own
Take me, make me your woman
Love me now, and don’t leave me alone
  1. Donna Summer

Under the title "Use me, Lord"

Here I am, Use me Lord
How can I every repay
All you've done for me
  1. June Rochelle

Under the title "Use me, Lord"

Use me Lord for whatever You need me to do;
channel my life and help me to do Your will,
make me an instrument of Your loving kindness.
  1. Gospel Music Workshop of America Youth Mass Choir ("written by Daryl Logan")

Under the title "Use Me To Use You"

Its hard to trust a stranger
You're a stranger to yourself
  1. Trapt

Lack of articles

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As i've said above, none of the edits are just off the wall.

-- The Use Me EP does cover a topic properly named by "Use Me", namely a 4-song record.
-- Bill Withers is the creator of the "Use Me" song that appears to be the most notable (as indicated by the multiple covers) one by that name.
-- Garbage (band) has recorded something under that name.

However, only the EP among them could deserve (even in the absence of the others) such a Rdr, since only it gives encyclopedic information on that can reasonably be sought under that name. (It is thus that i include the blanking of the page as "not off the wall", tho it is not acceptable either.)
In point of fact, there are 5 articles lk'g to Use Me, and 4 of them clearly are for the song that Bill Withers wrote. (The identity of the Nemi one is most likely different, but harder to establish, at least with my sparse background.) Unless no article on his song can be encyclopedic, the clear prospect of one means that Dab'n (pg or Hatnote) between at least the EP and the Withers song is needed, rather than an unaided Rdr. (The addition of "Use Me" to the list was done by an IP with one other edit (also Norway-related) on 22 March 2007, at a time when the series of Rdrs had not yet started, so there was no then-current target for that editor to have agreed or disagreed with.) The fix i am going to apply is an even-handed one, equal disambiguation, which will leave room for discussion of any longer-term role of the Use Me title as an article with a Dab Hatnote lk'g to Use Me (disambiguation), with perhaps a lesser sense of urgency to displace a seeming usurper of the unsuffixed title. And in fact, the previous implicit disagreement as to the proper target for the Rdr, from among the three nominees, may support a long-term decision for equal Dabn.
Having done so much research, i may make what i think would be my first attempt to write a popular-music article, Use Me (Withers). But that's secondary.
--Jerzyt 04:53, 13 April 2008 (UTC)Reply