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Trivia

The 'trivia' section needs some proper, third-party sources (i.e. not just student publications recycling urban myths). The myth about the student residences being modelled on Scandinavian prisons, and the myth about student radio signals triggering a military alert are just that: myths. They are common to most British universities and it's only gullible undergraduates who believe them and perpetuate them as 'true'. Has anyone actually seen how far Warwick is from the sea and wondered how the radio station's 1 Watt transmitter can be heard by a submarine anywhere? I'd propose deletion of this section. 87.86.239.10 15:30, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

I'd oppose the deletion of this section. Sure, it would benefit from the addition of sources, but it is nontheless interesting. The fact that the radio uses a 1 watt transmitter has no relevnce at all. 1 watt is more than enough to reach the north sea. Rob cowie 20:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Isn't the point that these are myths and legends circulated about campus. Noone is claiming that these things are facts. I think that these myths are interesting in their own right. University folklore, if you will. And if they are common to campuses all around the country, well that is something to ponder. How did they spread? and so on... Teutanic 17:47, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

The source of most of there myths: "Warwick the magazine" is an official University of Warwick publication, by the University's PR people, it's not written by students. Tomgreeny 19:57, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreed these myths cannot be corroborated, but they're myths! One of the great things about Wikipedia is that is provides information that you may not find elsewhere; this is especially useful if you put yourself in the position of a student wanting more information about prospective universities. The myths may not be 'useful' information, but help provide a more rounded picture of the university.--Stripybadger 11:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

I was at Warwick in 1980 (lived in CH1) and the 'Scandinavian prison' story was told about Cryfield Hall even back then R. sparts 21:42, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

The same story was told about Goodricke College C-block at the University of York when I was an undergraduate there in the early 1990s. It seems to be one of those stories that turns up all over the place. Other examples of common legends include: "The architect who designed the university library forgot to take the weight of the books into account" and "graduates at the university of X don't wear mortarboards because when women were admitted as students the existing male students threw theirs in the river/in the lake/off the bridge/etc in protest". They're fun and entertaining, but notoriously difficult to verify, so we probably shouldn't have them in the encyclopaedia. -- Nicholas Jackson (talk) 00:43, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

Myths section removed: May 2007

I have removed the "University legends and myths" section. It was a cruft-magnet, and largely unsourced since February. The one source which was supplied, a magazine article, isn't a rigorous or reliable treatment. None of the "legends" were especially illuminating, and most are not unique to Warwick. Any number of universities have a rumour that there are underground tunnels on campus or student accommodation based on a prison of some kind (Snopes has a page on this sort of thing). Please think carefully before adding this stuff back in, and find a reliable source that's independent from the university, to establish the notability of any given "legend". — mholland (talk) 16:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC) I have also removed the section on myths surrounding the 'Koan', for the same reasons as above. As a current student, I have never heard these alleged rumours, and don't belive they are current. Until verification is provided, the section should remain removed. .... How boring :(

The 'underground tunnels' certainly do exist - i have seen them first hand - however in reality they are 'steam ducts' carrying services between buildings (but they are quite large, and could certainly be classified as tunnels)

Endowment size?

What is the size of Warwick's endowment? Most University pages have the endowment size but this one doesn't for some reason. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.110.139.16 (talk) 12:36, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

The Digital Lab

Warwick has a recent additional building in the digital (research) lab full details here http://digital.warwick.ac.uk/About-the-lab/ is this something that should be covered in the article? I would write a piece myself but have a dissertation to write first! Xubee (talk) 15:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Warwick Business School

Earlier versions of the article of the University of Warwick mentioned the Warwick Business School, the current version does not. I do not know why this is the case, but it is one of the most famous and largest departments of the university. I think it should at least be mentioned and linked to the Warwick Business School article. Otherwise, it would reflect a certain degree of bias. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.219.69.66 (talk) 23:44, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

I have had a look back through to 2007 and found no references to the Business School apart from on the image. Can you give some details of the versions that you think the information was in? Keith D (talk) 00:28, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry about it, but I can't remember which version it was in. I just remember the last time I looked at this article it mentioned the business school, which is the largest department of the university and very well known. I just don't want the article to be biased as the business school is not well liked among some students of other departments as it is the most famous department and receives preferential treatment. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.219.69.66 (talk) 00:38, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Why does warwick pretend to be prestigious?

I mean come on it's a 1960's plate glass uni, it's hardly "ivy league" like ucl, icl, kcl, lse, bristol, edinburgh, manchester etc. The league tables continue to overinflate Warwicks position imo. It should not be considered prestigious, it is a university for average students.

I don't really understand your comment about average students - in the latest Guardian League Table (2008) the entry tariff for Warwick is 450, placing the university by this criterion in 5th position. If students were really average, then the tariff would be a lot lower than Bristol (431), Manchester (412), KCL (406). With regards to Warwick's overinflated position generally: what exactly is your opinion based on??? 82.2.60.90 (talk) 00:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Considering it was only founded just over 40 years ago in 1965 and now can compete with much more established instiutitions, it has come a long way in a short time. It's part of the Russell Group, and if that isn't a British "Ivy League", I don't know what is. Misterx2000 (talk) 07:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Why is the fact that it is new make it a lesser institution? Surely this is an appeal to tradition? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.205.68.252 (talk) 02:37, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Amy Winehouse

Played at the Students Union? When?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.205.253.147 (talk) 16:29, 11 February 2010 (UTC) Not sure she did... she played twice at Warwick Arts Centre - once supporting Jamie Cullum, once as headliner in the theatre. If she played at the Students Union too I'd like to see a reference to this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.146.205 (talk) 21:49, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

First sentence

I have concerns with the sentence "The University of Warwick is one of the top 5 universities in the UK". League tables vary hugely, and measure different things, so basing the first sentence on a single league table as a ref is cherry-picking the facts. Statements like this should be based on a very broad assessment of the tables, and subjective judgements should not be given excessive weight. The only league table that agrees with this statement, based on the info in the Rankings section, is the Guardian, so to make this statement is clearly ignoring the other two, at least, that say it isn't. If you realy must have a league table position, then say "is consistently ranked within the top 10 ...", and don't put it as the first sentence. Fourth ventricle (talk) 19:14, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Any photos requests?

Quite a few of the photos of the campus, particularly the student union building, are quite outdated. Since I'm on campus at the moment, I intend to take a few photos for this article later in week, primarily of the union but also of the Rootes social building and the White Koan. If you have any other requests for photos of the campus (e.g. accommodation? library? academic buildings?) please let me know; I'll check back here regularly until then so I can take photos while I'm out-and-about. I could also take pictures of the inside of buildings, but I think I might get some funny looks from security if I photograph lecture theatres or something. -- S G Gower (talk) 12:22, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi, well done on taking the time to do this, photos of the library and the Warwick Manufacturing Group building would be great.Rangoon11 (talk) 15:03, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Top 10

I dont know if this is the right place to ask this but after saying warwick has never left the top 10 it says citation needed. I think the proof of that are the links to all the UK league tables, Daily telegraph,Sunday Times, Times , Guardian,etc. How else can it be verified? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.177.124 (talk) 06:19, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Well, to my mind it's a bit imprecise: What do we mean by 'never'? Since the university was founded, or since the first league table was produced - and if the latter, when was that? What league tables are we talking about? Has Warwick really never slipped down to eleventh place in any (mainstream) league table? If so, then that's obviously quite impressive, and deserves mentioning in the article. Links to the relevant league tables should suffice, I would have thought, as long as they do indeed show that Warwick has never been out of the top ten, and not just that it's in the top ten at the moment. -- Nicholas Jackson 07:13, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

You can add to the article that the only unis that have never been outside of the top ten in the UK league tables are Oxbridge, LSE, Warwick, and UCL I believe. I did try to add this but someone deleted it.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.179.80 (talk) 21:03, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

OK, so that's interesting, and worth including, but you need to provide some sort of corroborative and citeable evidence to confirm it - otherwise someone will probably delete it again (or at least tag it with {{Fact}}). First of all, we need a definitive list of the league tables in question (because there are quite a few of them) and then we need some sort of list of past years' league tables which goes back suitably far (ie to the later of: the year of foundation of the university, and the year that league table was started). I hope this helps. -- Nicholas Jackson 22:41, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Tables werent made back then. They started in early 21st century . However, I think tables are avaiable from 2003 onwards online with a Daily Telegraph table considering rankings of all tables and giving the picture in 2003. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.179.80 (talk) 06:49, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure university league tables started earlier than that: League tables of British universities says early 1990s, which sounds about right to me. I'm certainly not disputing your assertion that Warwick has always been in the top 10 since records began - it does sound entirely plausible. The only sticking point is that we need some kind of independent verification of this. -- Nicholas Jackson 09:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

'The Times Good University Guide' was around in 1994 (The first 'Times' table published Oct 1992), remember seeing a copy on the library counter, Warwick was 8th back then, and The Sunday Times Good University Guide predates it by at least a decade. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.74 (talk) 19:23, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

It should be added that the university came 5th in the latest Independent poll as it was the highest placed university outside London and Oxbridge —Preceding unsigned comment added by JamesMadisonJr (talk • contribs) 00:49, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

UK University Rankings

	2011	2010	2009	2008	2007	2006	2005	2004	2003	2002	2001	2000	1999	1998	1997	1996	1995	1994	1993
Times Good University Guide	8th	6th	6th	7th	8th	8th	5th	8th	6th	6th	8th =	8th =	7th	6th	5th	8th =	5th =	8th =	8th =
Guardian University Guide	3rd	4th	4th	8th	8th	8th	9th	9th	9th	5th
Sunday Times University Guide	8th	6th	7th	7th	7th	6th	6th	7th	8th	5th	7th	8th	7th	7th
The Daily Telegraph					8th				9th	10th
FT Good University Guide									6th	7th	10th	9th	9th
Independent Complete University Guide supported by PriceWaterHouseCoopers	7th	6th	5th	8th
QS World University Rankings		53rd	58th	69th	57th	73rd	77th	80 th
Times Higher Education World University Rankings		–

References

109.144.218.251 (talk) 23:23, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

Lead/infobox reference to United Kingdom

The long standing reference to the United Kingdom in the lead and infobox has been removed by two editors, despite having been reverted. I am unclear as to why the state in which the university is located should not be included, as it is in 99.9% of all university articles in Wikipedia.Rangoon11 (talk) 14:05, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Research information

The ranking and assessment of its research in the opening section is vague and the citation is now dead. Ill try and change this asap. The targeted by top employers comment is also out of date and no longer true. IcyEd (talk) 04:01, 2 February 2012 (UTC)

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Request edit to introductory paragraph

Please change 'Warwick was ranked by QS as the world's 7th best university based on employer's surveys' to 'Warwick was ranked by QS as the world's 9th best university based on employer reputation'

Amyhowes (talk) 13:52, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

Research

Hmm I am not going to delete it unless there is a consensus, but I wonder about the section which refers to one particular research paper of two WBS members (it is a paper which they wrote about Apple corporation). One journalist referred to the award which this paper won as equivalent to the Oscars in the world of business studies. I do not know any of the details of this but should one particular paper by two particular staff members in one particular department of Warwick University, writing about the business profile of another particular other company (Apple) really be the most notable thing this university has accomplished? It might be something notable within the world of Business studies...Createangelos (talk) 17:08, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

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"decision sciences" research?

What does "decision sciences" mean? I don't think this is a well-known term. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rkhwaja (talk • contribs) 02:38, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

Admissions

Apologies in advance if this is not the way to inform of a correction, but this is my first attempt.

"For 2017 entry, the university was one of only a few mainstream universities (along with Cambridge, Imperial College, LSE, Oxford, St Andrews, and UCL) to have no courses available in Clearing.[55] "

I am quite sure this is wrong. I can remember Warwick advertising places in Clearing on their web page . See also:

http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/a-level-clearing-warwick-university-13483185

and the Warwick student newspaper:

https://theboar.org/2017/08/falling-entry-requirements-courses-seventeen-departments-warwick-advertised-clearing/

Facebook page for Applied Linguistics at Warwick: https://www.facebook.com/warwickcal/posts/1218050998301022

Facebook for History department at Warwick (entry for 15 August):

https://www.facebook.com/WarwickHistory/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.86.75 (talk) 21:33, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Rape chat scandal

The genders involved aren't given and I think they should be (it was male students against female students). Also the (secretly suggested) plotting was of the more serious crime of rape (the article text cites the lesser crime of "sexual assault"). Basically some male students sent secret messages to each other via computer urging the rape of specified female students. The present article is a bit vague and thereby lessens the grave seriousness of the incident - and it is accurate in British culture to describe the incident as very serious. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr gobrien (talk • contribs) 14:54, 11 July 2019 (UTC)