Talk:University Hospital Crosshouse

Delayed Opening

The article currently says that Crosshouse Hospital opened in 1978. Ayrshire residents of some vintage will be aware that it was delayed for several years: this was a cause celebre at the time, raised in Parliament in 1979 and 1980: on the latter occasion Russell Fairgrieve, then Under-Secretary of State for Scotland, described it as one of the three disasters to date in NHS hospital building in Scotland (the others being Ninewells and the Royal Hospital for Sick Children in Glasgow). In the debate of 9/12/80, available at https://api.parliament_uk/historic-hansard/commons/1980/dec/09/north-ayrshire-district-general-hospital, the local MP stated that work began on the site in August 1972 with completion expected in May 1977. The two main impediments to opening the hospital were the water supply and ventilation systems. Excessive water levels of lead and copper were attributed to solder having got into the system: this was remedied by flushing out over several months. The Under-Secretary said, "The air conditioning ... is just not up to the job, even when turned to full power: and when that is done the noise level in the wards is intolerable." The College of Nursing and the Administration Block were handed over by the builders in 1980, but the main five-storey clinical block did not come into clinical use until late in 1981. That allowed the closure of Kilmarnock Infirmary in 1982 and also of Torrance House. The official opening by George Younger took place on 2/6/84. I don't know if that was when the name was changed to "Crosshouse Hospital" - before that it was the North Ayrshire District General Hospital, or N.A.D.G.H., but local health professionals used to call it "Nadge." Hence, probably, the change of name. NRPanikker (talk) 19:56, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I have added a bit on this in the article. Dormskirk (talk) 00:16, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

2021 Kilmarnock incidents

While every due respect to victims and families it seems likely this is likely to prove a localized incident and is probably carrying WP:UNDUE weight in the article beyond short term and probably needs to be removed in due course. Removal to a separate article should be considered when more information is available but this may not justify a separate article, though to early to tell. Djm-leighpark (talk) 23:54, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Agreed, and as a minimum would suggest that all the tweets are removed. We should record the facts rather than the views of politicians and celebrities. Dormskirk (talk) 23:56, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

With all due respect, tweets from a verified account of Scottish Government ministers I would say goes above and beyond the "views" of politicians, there are responding to a local and national incident. I have since created an additional article focussing on all three incidents and will add more information to this when new information surfaces. Goodreg3 (talk) 00:18, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

As there's a main article dealing with the incident I've minimised content in the section leaving the direction to the main article.Djm-leighpark (talk) 07:05, 5 February 2021 (UTC)