Talk:United We Fall (TV series)

Requested move 21 June 2020

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Consensus to only move United We Fall to United We Fall (album) and then United We Fall (disambiguation) to United We Fall . (non-admin closure) — YoungForever^(talk) 13:09, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

---

• United We Fall (TV series) → United We Fall
• United We Fall → United We Fall (album)

– The article with the current title “United We Fall” is a stub, unlike “United We Fall (TV series)”. In addition, a Google search for “United We Fall” primarily turns up results for the television series; the first result that related to the album ranked 27th in my search. – Quick and Dirty User Account (talk) 09:56, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose as WP:TOOSOON. The TV series hasn't even been released. Google WP:HITS are not grounds for a move, especially when there is a predictable temporary spike in coverage of a new TV series. And at best all we would do first is WP:NOPRIMARY and create a DAB - not this swap. -- Netoholic @ 10:16, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

  Changing to Oppose 1st, support 2nd, move United We Fall (disambiguation) to primary to disambiguate all as WP:NOPRIMARY. -- Netoholic @ 11:52, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

• Support. The album is very minor so I see no reason to mess around with a dab page in this instance. —Xezbeth (talk) 10:30, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

  @Xezbeth: please take a look at United We Fall (disambiguation). -- Netoholic @ 18:19, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

• Oppose TV series article move; Support album article move: It seems foreseeable that the Sweatshop Union album will no longer be WP:PRIMARYTOPIC, if it ever was; but it's not clear that the upcoming TV show will become WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. The phrase's meaning itself is probably the dominant thing people would be looking for, and that's basically just a dictionary definition. My gut feeling is that United We Fall ought to be the disambiguation page that is now at United We Fall (disambiguation). --Closeapple (talk) 06:51, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
• I myself now oppose moving the television series article, and support moving the album article to “United We Fall (album)”, and the disambiguation page to “United We Fall”. I did not check for a disambiguation page before I made the change proposal; also, Netoholic and Closeapple make persuasive arguments.—Quick and Dirty User Account (talk) 02:49, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support moving the move to “United We Fall (album)” and oppose the proposed move for the television series article. I agree with the editors above that a disambiguation page would be a better option here. Aoba47 (talk) 04:07, 23 June 2020 (UTC)
• Support moving the move to “United We Fall (album)” and oppose the proposed move for the television series article. DAB. If the TV series becomes the next The Big Bang Theory then for sure it will be the primary topic, if it gets pulled after half a season due to poor ratings then it shall likely be as forgotten as the album.--Bob not snob (talk) 09:31, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.