Talk:United Nations Convention Against Corruption

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Andrewa in topic Requested move 24 March 2021

Map still out of date edit

Saudi Arabia ratified the UNCAC in April of 2013, the map does not seem to reflect this. Oman and the Czech Republic have ratified as well. I'm not sure if there are other errors. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.138.96.2 (talk) 20:57, 22 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Thanks; it's solved now! (you may need to clear the cash of your browser though) L.tak (talk) 21:22, 22 February 2014 (UTC)Reply

Outdated edit

According to http://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/treaties/CAC/signatories.html : "Status: Signatories: 140 ,Parties: 146." while the box says: "Signatories: 140 (as of 23 July 2009, signatories who haven't yet ratified are above in blue) Ratifications: 137 (as of 8 September 2009, above in green)" which also doesn't match with the map above - there are clearly more than 3 countries that signed, but not ratified the treaty.

Thanks for updating!

The map is wrong :-( edit

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_talk:UNCACmap.png —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.246.7.9 (talk) 00:51, 11 September 2010 (UTC)Reply

Primary versus secondary sources edit

There is a flag that says that this article relies "too much" on primary sources, to add secondary or tertiary sources. As a scholar and keen student of propaganda on Wikipedia I just have to object. The Primary sources are the only ones that count, in the courtroom as in science. Secondary and tertiary sources are where PROPAGANDA enters. In Wikipedia particularly there are hordes of agents employed by corrupt regimes to distort the articles using secondary and tertiary sources (which other branches of the same propaganda apparatus produces, through media outlets that they control, e.g. RT, TeleSur, to mention just two of the most egregious examples). Therefore, the idea that secondary sources are better than primary is a PROFOUND FLAW IN WIKIPEDIA. If you want an example of an article that is propaganda and impossible to correct due to the flawed rules, see the history of the article about Alejandro Peña Esclusa in Wikipedia in Italian. 2601:7:5680:4AC:E2F8:47FF:FE0E:8D82 (talk) 16:10, 24 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

Primary sources are best says Wikipedia edit

This link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability#What_counts_as_a_reliable_source says that the original peer-reviewed papers in science make the best sources. And obviously, the text of a convention is the best source for knowledge on the convention. The flag on this article is flat out misleading, and invites for the introduction of propaganda. I suggest it be removed and that the article is good. 2601:7:5680:4AC:E2F8:47FF:FE0E:8D82 (talk) 16:20, 24 March 2015 (UTC)Reply

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Requested move 24 March 2021 edit

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 01:36, 1 April 2021 (UTC)Reply



United Nations Convention against CorruptionUnited Nations Convention Against Corruption – The title should be in title case as defined by MOS:TITLECAPS, but instead it is in title case as defined by the UN rules. The former requires that "Against" be capitalized but the latter entails lowercase. Unfortunately, this is "potentially controversial" because the new page is occupied by a redirect that implies that the current title is correct by convention or per WP:NCCAPS. But that guideline is about sentence case vs. title case, which isn't the issue (i.e., nobody wanted "United Nations convention against corruption").

Other evidence: there are a few other sources not cited in the article that, like Wikipedia and unlike the UN, probably follow styles that specify the capitalization of long prepositions in the titles of works, and do so for this treaty. However, most sources don't actually capitalize "against", and I couldn't find any discussions of similar issues on Wikipedia (including on Convention against Torture).

If this request is denied, MOS:TITLECAPS should be amended. Knr5 (talk) 01:18, 24 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

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