Talk:Unified Korean sporting teams

Recent changes

I just made some changes to the infobox. Explanations:

• Removed location - the three events took place in Japan, Portugal, and S.Korea, and adding every new instance would bloat the infobox
• Removed date - as above
• Removed/moved medal table - as above, because we should be able to split the medals by year. I shifted them to the {{MedalBox}} below it
• Winter appearances - at the moment 2018 is the only Olympics appearance, which means we don't really need to link it (since it's all over the body of the text)
• See also - linked to the "at the Olympics" pages because those exist. I was going to link to the other "X Korea at the Y" but they don't exist.
• Removed {{Infobox Korean name}}, because it's not particularly relevant to the article.

Happy to discuss further, but I thought with multiple changes it might be best to clarify why I did it all. Primefac (talk) 17:59, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

@Primefac:

• About {{Infobox Korean name}}: In 1991, North and South Korea named their own "코리아 ko-ri-a" (Korea). For this, see sources for Ministry of Unification in this article. Thanks. --Garam (talk) 02:53, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Title

@Hariboneagle927: the current title is even worse. There is no "Unified Korea in sporting events" because there is no Unified Korea. These are simply teams composed of athletes of both Koreas under the same flag, not teams representing some non-entity called "Unified Korea". The teams are unified, not the nation they represent. You won't find this construction "Unified Korea" in reliable sources in this context either. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 12:56, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Nothing is said about the existence of a non-country called as "Unified Korea" though. On the contrary reliable sources has used the term "Unified Korea" See:

• Asian Games: United Korea smash hosts Indonesia in hoops (Channel News Asia)
• Unified Korea defeats host in historic game (Jakarta Post)

Alternatively we could used the term "Unified Korean sporting teams" or some variation to make it clear that it the "teams" themselves are "united". Since its common for RS to describe the joint-teams as "Unified Korean national teams" to avoid confusion with the South Korean national teams.Hariboneagle927 (talk) 13:06, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

I stand corrected, there are a couple of odd mentions of "Unified Korea" in sources, but "Unified Korean teams" seems prevalent.

"Unified Korean sporting teams" or "Unified Korean teams in sporting events" would be the better title. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 13:17, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

The two are essentially the same but the first one is more WP:CONCISE. I moved the articleHariboneagle927 (talk) 14:19, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Section about names of teams in East Asian languages

Disputing the recent revert that was over lack of sources and OR.

The names of the teams in English, Korean, and Japanese (and the events these names were used at) are well-documented. To document their (lack of) name in Chinese, a video of the relevant opening ceremony and placard is sufficient (how would it not be sufficient?). I've also found a better video which wound up on the Korean Unification Flag page that I can move here.

Agreeing that the implied "name was a compromise to avoid a translation issue" may be OR; I can throw this out. However, this takes up something like 1/10 of a sentence and is not worth removing the section over. Zowayix001 (talk) 15:07, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

So, to illustrate my point, in the end of the second paragraph is ...and during the 1991 World Table Tennis Championships in Japan, the team used the name コリア Koria. Nowhere in this article, or in the linked article, does it indicate that コリア was used. This is one sentence out of the three paragraphs, but from what I've seen none of the statements are supported aside from needing to skim through a video of the opening ceremony. I have no issues with the content being there, provided there's a reference that at least supports some of the content. Primefac (talk) 15:32, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Narrowed "Western languages" to "English"; in truth I've only looked at Australia/Greece/Qatar/Indonesia (with Greece being the only non-English one) instead of all the other Western languages. Thanks for the catch. Added sources for コリア to the 1991 World Table Tennis Championships article. For 코리아, this info has been readily available on the well-supported 2018 Winter Olympics Parade of Nations article. Zowayix001 (talk) 18:10, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

Politics

This article simply states that Unified Korean teams started existing in 1991, but gives no background as to the geopolitical context of this. This is needed for the article. --LukeSurl ^t c 09:46, 23 July 2021 (UTC)