Talk:Umatilla Indian Reservation

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Res vs. tribal entity

Latest comment: 18 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

What happened? My credit for this article disappeared. Backspace 17:42, 13 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hi, you had put your excellent census and location info into the article Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Indian Reservation, which is the tribal entity of the people who live on the reservation, not the actual reservation, so I moved that info here. Sorry if you feel you lost credit--but it is still in the history of the tribal article. Katr67 18:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)Reply

Merge discussion

Latest comment: 14 years ago3 comments3 people in discussion

Oppose merge. This is part of a sadly incomplete effort to make separate articles for the reservations and the tribal governments that run them. Related discussions here, here, here, and here, some of which are about the difference between a tribe and a tribal entity, vs. this discussion about the difference between a tribal entity and a reservation. People don't understand that the tribal government and the reservation are different things, similarly to a recent discussion about whether State of Oregon means the government entity Government of Oregon or the physical territory Oregon. Granted, if this was an article about a state, there would not be enough material here to justify splitting off a "Government of" article. But I think an exception should be made in this case. First off, there's nothing wrong with stubs, and second when expanded, the scope of these articles would be totally different. Much like Bull Run River (Oregon) and Bull Run Watershed cover related topics in different ways. P.S. For the complete list, see List of federally recognized Native American tribes in Oregon and List of Indian reservations in Oregon. Katr67 (talk) 22:42, 18 September 2009 (UTC)Reply

Support - combining the information would make it more accessible to the public. Both articles have stayed stubs for a substantial amount of time – five years, in fact – so are unlikely to be expanded to the point they would require separate articles anytime soon. I agree that it's good to have separate articles for an ethnic group (Umatilla (tribe)) and the specific federally recognized tribe (Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Indian Reservation), but the reservation and the tribal government are closely linked entities that merit a combined article. -Uyvsdi (talk) 19:51, 1 November 2009 (UTC)UyvsdiReply

Oppose - See Also and certainly cross-wikification on both pages will help with accessibility if not already there. The Umatilla Indian Reservation is not the people, nor is the federal entity called the Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Indian Reservation, the ethnic group known as the Umatilla people. They are all three, different ideas meriting exploration. Support their separate interlinked development as time permits.Duff (talk) 01:10, 23 April 2010 (UTC)Reply

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