Talk:Uddaka Rāmaputta
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Was Ramaputta a Jain? edit
Is there any evidence for the claim that Udaka Ramaputta was a Jain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.164.49.21 (talk) 09:12, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- I can't access all the sources tacked onto that sentence, but there doesn't seem to be any such claim in the Eliade book. I've tagged it for citation. --Spasemunki (talk) 02:09, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
- I’ll see if I can find any additional attestation. If not, I’ll remove it. Bagabondo (talk) 19:47, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- I've checked two biographies of the Buddha (one by John S. Strong and the other by Karen Armstrong) and neither mention Uddaka as being a Jain. Looking at the Lalitavistara and Buddhacarita, I can't find any mention of Uddaka as a Jain, and he's actually a very minor character in both instances. Online, there's mostly only speculation in forums and Quora about Uddaka being a Jain, so the claim seems to be unverifiable conjecture, and this doesn't appear to be an important idea in Buddhist scholarship. I'll go ahead and remove the mention. Bagabondo (talk) 19:54, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Actually, in several of the oldest Jain texts a teacher named RAMAPUTTA is described in detail.
- This can be found in the RISHIBHASHIT chapter 23, SUTRAKRITANGA SUTRA 1.3.4.2-3, and STANANGA SUTRA 755. In these texts, the Jains treat Ramaputta with great respect and describe his teachings as being basically in line with Jainism. This Ramaputta appears to be a bit older than both Mahavira and Buddha.
- So friends, it helps to study Jainism and not ignore it, if you are serious about understanding ancient India and the ancient world in general. Jainism had a tremendous influence on Indian religions and Indian culture in general. Cheers
- Reference: RISHIBHASHIT: A STUDY by Sagarmal Jain published by Prakrit Bharatiya Academy, Jaipur 1988. 47.138.18.163 (talk) 20:40, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
- I've checked two biographies of the Buddha (one by John S. Strong and the other by Karen Armstrong) and neither mention Uddaka as being a Jain. Looking at the Lalitavistara and Buddhacarita, I can't find any mention of Uddaka as a Jain, and he's actually a very minor character in both instances. Online, there's mostly only speculation in forums and Quora about Uddaka being a Jain, so the claim seems to be unverifiable conjecture, and this doesn't appear to be an important idea in Buddhist scholarship. I'll go ahead and remove the mention. Bagabondo (talk) 19:54, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- I’ll see if I can find any additional attestation. If not, I’ll remove it. Bagabondo (talk) 19:47, 4 November 2022 (UTC)