Talk:Ubosot

Not every ubosot has its entrance towards the east

Considering only all 38 Wats that are located within the old city walls of Chiang mai, I see many of them with an other orientation than east.

• North (5): Wat Dok Ueng (วัดดอกเอื้อง), Wat Khuan Khama (วัดควรค่าม้า), Wat Mai Tang (วัดเมธัง), Wat Meun Ngeun Kong (วัดหมื่นเงินกอง), Wat Si Koet (วัดศรีเกิด).
• West (1): Wat Mo Kham Tuang (วัดห์ม้อคำตวง).
• South (2): Wat Chai Phra Kiat (วัดชัยพระเกียรติ), Wat Phuak Taem (วัดพวกแต้ม).
• North for nuns and South for monks (1): Wat Phra Singh (วัดพระสิงห์วรมหาวิหาร).

And finally the following Wats have No Ubosot (11): Wat Monthian (วัดมณเฑียร), Wat Pha Bong (วัดผาบ่อง), Wat Inthakhin Sadue Muang (วัดอินทขีลสะดือเมือง), Wat Dok Kham (วัดดอกคำ), Wat Phan Tao (วัดพันเตา), Wat Chedi Luang (วัดเจดีย์หลวงวรวิหาร, but there is a former ubosot building facing the east), Wat Phan On (วัดพันอ้น), Wat Fon Soi (วัดฟ่อนสร้อย), Wat Jedlin (วัดเจ็ดลิน), Wat Chang Taem (วัดช่างแต้ม), Wat Sai Moon Myanmar (วัดทรายมูล [พม่า]).

So only 27 out of 38 Wats have an ubosot and ⅓ of them are not facing the east.

FredTC (talk) 10:06, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Requested move 1 March 2015

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The result of the move request was: Moved. No opposes, and valid reasoning. Note: the move will require admin assistance, which I will request. (non-admin closure)  — Amakuru (talk) 10:31, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

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Phra ubosot → Ubosot – Phra is an unnecessary honorific. It can and should be removed.
Notes: Phra is an honorific in Thai. It can literally be translated as holy, excellent, etc. It is used for gods or god-like figures (Buddha, priests, etc.) as well as things relating to them (sculptures, places, etc.). The main noun is ubosot. iudexvivorum (talk) 18:13, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

• Support. Agrees with the Royal Institute Dictionary. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:50, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
• Support. GregKaye 13:36, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
• Support: English-language literature about Buddhist architecture uses "Ubosot" without "phra" much more often than with. --RJFF (talk) 17:59, 5 March 2015 (UTC)

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Proposed merge with Ordination hall

Articles about the same subject. Ubosot is the older article, but Ordination hall follows WP:USEENGLISH and has wider international scope. Paul_012 (talk) 08:23, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

• Support. Concept is relevant to East Asian traditions as well, but I'm not sure what it's called. Better to use the English title with sections about region-specific names and variations. --Spasemunki (talk) 17:28, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
• Support: For now, the articles are small and merging will be useful. People are unlikely to find an article titled ubosoth. Ubosoth can always be split off later, when there is sufficient content. Buddhism on Wikipedia already has many stubs and starts—let's merge a bit and try to create a bit of substance.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 17:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
• Comment There should be a link at the disambiguation page Sima to Ordination hall. Sima is the Pāli word for the foundation of it, the ordination boundary.[1]--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 17:40, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Is Pāli word Sima the origine for the Thai word Sema, as in Bai Sema? --FredTC (talk) 06:12, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
    • FredTC It is.--Farang Rak Tham (Talk) 13:37, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
• Support. Will non-Buddhist Ordination halls also come here if they exist? If not, but they do exist, should we rename this article to have the word Buddhism in the name? --FredTC (talk) 06:12, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Seeing as there appears to be clear consensus, I've merged the article to Ordination hall. --Paul_012 (talk) 22:06, 2 November 2019 (UTC)