Talk:USS Winston S. Churchill/Archive 1

Archive 1

Lutjens "We Stand By You" Message

I removed the comment stating that the German naval vessel's message to the Churchill was ironic considering Germany "refused to back military action due to the lack of a UN resolution." This statement of course refers to the 2003 Iraq invasion, and not the invasion of Afghanistan. Outside the US and UK, Germany was one of the largest contributors to the coalition forces and thus staying true to the wording of the message of standing by the United States in response to 9/11. The statement did not make the distinction between the military campaigns and implies that Germany did not support the US in pursuit of terror or its reaction to 9/11. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ayrshire--77 (talk • contribs) 14:37, 3 February 2005 (UTC)

The picture

I rearranged the article a little so that the text is all at the top and the picture at the bottom right. TomStar81 04:22, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Refactoring proposal

I think there's more facts to report about the "We Stand By You" salute, and I propose to create a separate article devoted to the incident. I would remove that content from this article, and link to the new article. I've put some research notes on my User_Talk:Jdlh page. Comments welcome. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdlh (talk • contribs) 08:35, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Bar

sadly whoever made this website doesnt know the churchill like me i am a shipmate on there and the churchill has no bar but a full time british officer for navigation officer has a requirement of the royal navy...no bar in the churchill us navy prohibits alchahol on us navy units.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Txrednck1 (talk • contribs) 2007-04-14 13:59 (UTC)

Hey, it's great to have information from people with direct knowledge. Can you point us to a web page or newspaper article that talks about having a Royal Navy officer on board? I'd like to be able to attribute this information to a reliable, published source. Regarding the bar, I've seen a picture of a pub counter with taps that claims to be the Churchill. Are you saying that no such counter is installed? I can believe that any beer taps there aren't connected to beer! --Jdlh | Talk 19:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Well I am a plankowner from the churchill and I remember when Young's came to our ship in Portsmouth to install the bar set. The taps do work, and the bar is located in the Chief's mess. As for the British Navigator on the ship, that is true and I can say they have all added a fine quality to our ship when I was there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.160.196.94 (talk • contribs) 19:03, July 5, 2007

Amen! Whoever that Txrednck1 joker is, he's not from the Churchill! TheMongoose — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMongoose (talk • contribs) 14:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

If you folks are plankowners, could you add something about the shock trials down off of Flordia? I'm surprised to see nothing here about them, and they were pretty spectacular. 130.76.96.14 (talk) 20:01, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

RN officer

i would also like to see more detail on this officer. will this person always be the navigator, or will the next guy perhaps hold some other position? is this seen as a plum for an up-and-comer, or is he a 'who can we do without for 2 years?' sort.etc., etc. on the issue of the bar, i too, have a hard time believing that beer is served. during my westpac cruise many years ago, a guy got 3 days in the brig on bread and water for bringing beer aboard. hell, even the royal navy eliminated the daily 'tot' some years ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toyokuni3 (talk • contribs) 17:03, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

I served on the 'Churchill' from June 21st 2006 til Oct 23rd 2008. The Navigation Officer has been and will always be an Royal Navy Officer til she is decommissioned. Those who know me: "Yarr avast!" but those who don't I'll leave this unsigned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kookee2k2 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Though the tot has been gone since the early 70s, alcohol is still available on RN ships. For ratings it's the "two-can rule" (about a litre of beer per day), those holding a commission have access to spirits in their mess. And actually, rum is still issued when "Splice the mainbrace" is piped.Paddyboot (talk) 18:09, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Name

Why is it the Winston S. Churchill when Churchill's full name was Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill? 81.159.88.183 (talk) 16:49, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Most people know him by Winston S Churchill.G. R. Allison (talk) 19:29, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

As an author and reporter in his youth, Churchill adopted the middle 'S' (because his full surname was Spencer-Churchill) to distinguish him from the bestselling American writer Winston Churchill (novelist) who was at that time far better known. These days, of course, practically nobody remembers who that other guy was. The two did meet a couple of times, but the American one gave up writing in 1919 and died forgotten in 1947, a few years before the British one was awarded the Nobel Prize for Literature. Khamba Tendal (talk) 17:44, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Coat of Arms

It is worth mentioning in an appropriate subheading that the shield is surrounded by a garter with the legend "The Most Noble Order of the Garter" which is a reference to Churchill's membership of that order. The Most Noble Order of the Garter is the most prestigious British order of chivalry, though the actual Garter insignia reads "Honi soit qui mal y pense" (Middle French: "Shame on him who thinks ill of it"). Not being an expert in heraldry I'd rather leave it to someone else to fit this into the appropriate place. Martin of Sheffield (talk) 22:31, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

Revert

I edited on mobile and it appears I ruined quite a bit. I won’t mind a little help in reverting to prior to my edit. dboydomr (talk) 09:53, 21 October 2022 (UTC)