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GA Review
editGA review and comments archived at Talk:USS Siboney (ID-2999)/Good article nomination
Suggestions
editThere are several sentences which seem unnecessary. Of course, I cannot be absolutely sure of their in-necessity, which is why I did not remove them in the course of the WP:LOCE prose review. The sections include the mention of the steering gear malfunction in the introduction, as it is covered in the body and is not particularly notable; the specific information on the SS Yucatan; the specific information on the Seneca; and the “Western" in "Western Australia", as this seems to be superfluous, unless there are multiple locations named Broome in Australia. I may make these changes myself, separate from the LOCE action, if there are no objections within a reasonable time-frame. Sean ODuibher (talk) 21:32, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for taking the time to review the article. Some responses to your comments:
- In the lead, I was trying to have more than just a single sentence about the World War I service. Perhaps the sentence could be recast to emphasize that Siboney was the cause of the collision between the two ships? Then leave the details of what malfunctioned in the body, since the steering gear malfunction itself is not the most important part.
- Looking at it from a distance, the Seneca and Yucatan information does seem a bit irrelevant in this article.
- Western is capitalized because that is the part of the name of the Australian state "Western Australia". The article on the attack is just Attack on Broome. When adding the "Western Australia" in the piped link, I was trying to make the distinction that Broome was not in Java. If you can suggest a better way to make that clear, I'm all for it.
- — Bellhalla (talk) 21:54, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
- Glad to be of use.
- The goal for the introduction seems sensible, but instead of just reworking that sentence, why don't you talk about how far the Siboney sailed in that service or how many troops she carried.
- That's precisely my point about the Seneca and Yucatan. I don't think this very well done article will suffer at all from such removals.
- If the "Western" is for the state, that's fine. In fact, though it took me a while, I found the WP:NC:CITY page and the "city, state" formation is the correct one for Australian locations. I think we can safely leave this one alone.
- Again, I'm happy to have been helpful. This was my first WP:LOCE action, so I hope you were satisfied. Sean ODuibher (talk) 01:10, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
- Glad to be of use.
please add this to history of the ship
editPlease someone add this to the history of the ship. the ship has more history after the war. there was a water rescue-fishing schooner MARIA CARLOTTA, 1947 captain gunnar van rosen of brooklyn ny was the captain who was also an artist.he painted this painting which is of the sea rescue and is at mystic seaport.i know of only 1 other painting from this ship captain.the emma c berry.privately owned by me!here is the painting of the sea rescue. http://library.mysticseaport.org/ere/odetail.cfm?id_number=1951.419 http://naviosavista.blogspot.com/2010/06/recordando-o-lugre-vela-maria-carlota.html http://books.google.com/books?id=1UgEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA46&lpg=PA46&dq=gunnar+van+rosen&source=bl&ots=xs4mY-HVEF&sig=Sig9mLGjRJqsoIUcODkfccckMGM&hl=en&ei=3FmFTMb7IcOC8gahxJH9AQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CCoQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=gunnar%20van%20rosen&f=false —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.183.196.190 (talk) 21:17, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Technical Details
editThis article would benefit from information about her propulsion system. I've not been able to find anything from a cursory internet search, but perhaps a more assiduous maritime historian can find out things such as number and type of boilers, boiler manufacturer, type of engine (reciprocating or turbine), engine manufacturer, etc.98.170.201.140 (talk) 02:20, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
- I totally agree. The article should never have been featured as the TFA without a section on construction and design. Gatoclass (talk) 06:59, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
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USAT Charles A Stafford 1947
editI have come across a passenger list on Ancestry.com for the "USAT Charles A Stafford" sailing out of Bremerhaven on 12 July 1947 arriving at New York on 23 July 1947. (Search the name of deceased Rachel B Tennery DOB 6 Apr 1909 to easily find the document.) The shipping line is identified as "United States Army Transport", owner War Dept, Washington, DC, local agents NYPE, Water Div, Trans Corps. This seems to contradict the article's suggestion that the ship was transferred by the War Dept to the Maritime Commission in 1946. The ship was not labeled as a hospital ship for this voyage yet preserved the Stafford name and was not in commercial operation running from the UK to NYC but Germany to NYC for the military. I can't update the article using research, but this passenger list, along with another mention above, might prompt someone to look closer at the post-war names, owners, and uses of the ship until it was scrapped. I've dabbled in war ship articles but don't have the resources to update this article. Hope you find this piece of the puzzle helps augment it. Pnoble805 (talk) 17:38, 1 April 2020 (UTC)