Talk:UN offensive into North Korea

Proposed merge with UN Offensive, 1950

These two pages appear to be about the same battle. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:00, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

No, UN Offensive 1950 just provides a very brief overview of everything from the Inchon Landing to Chinese intervention. Whereas this page provides extensive detail of the offensive into North Korea. If anything UN Offensive 1950 should now be deleted.Mztourist (talk) 14:53, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

Mztourist, that's what merge means, no? Either put the stuff in there here or put the stuff here in there. Since this one is much longer, the majority of the merged article would be content here. I'm gonna ping some other people to see what they think and if there's consensus I'll copy some stuff here, redirect and call it a day. Alpha3031 (t • c) 16:06, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

UN Offensive 1950 is just a very brief precis of what happened between the Inchon Landing and the Chinese intervention with a large focus on air operations. It says it was all one offensive, when there were actually 2/3 distinct phases: the breakout from the Pusan Perimeter (16-22 September) which I covered in Pusan Perimeter Offensive; the pursuit of the North Koreans out of South Korea (23-30 September) which I covered in UN September 1950 counteroffensive and then the pursuit into North Korea which is covered in this page. UN Offensive 1950 is like a brief extract from the main Korean War page and so its usefulness has passed. I agree that any useful information from from UN Offensive 1950 should be merged into the relevant pages I recently created, however as most of UN Offensive 1950 doesn't have inline references I'm not sure how much information can be copied over. I was going to undertake that exercise myself as well as finishing off this page but am going on holiday so won't get to it for another 10 days. regards Mztourist (talk) 04:22, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

Issue for revision

It appears that this article is almost entirely the contents of the third source, Appleman, Roy E. South to the Naktong, North to the Yalu. 1992.

I think that this article will likely require serious revisions to shorten and simplify the information given. Each of the current subsections might even constitute an article of their own.

As is, it isn't the most comfortable piece to read casually.

NineLion (talk) 23:06, 5 December 2022 (UTC)

Correct its all from Applemen with links and coordinates where available. I don't see how it can be broken up into separate articles as the various sections are all part of the same offensive. Mztourist (talk) 02:53, 6 December 2022 (UTC)

Victory

Surely it was the the Chinese and North Korean forces who achieved victory in the UN Offensive, because they pushed the UN Forces back to the 38th parallel, which was their goal. The UN forces failed their objectives to reunite North Korea with the south. 158.223.122.211 (talk) 16:39, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

Its the result for the offensive, not what followed. Mztourist (talk) 02:55, 6 February 2024 (UTC)

The result of the offensive was that we got pushed back, so it cant be a victory 2A00:23C5:348D:4301:C57:D543:413C:FE30 (talk) 21:09, 1 April 2024 (UTC)