Talk:Two Indeterminate Lines

Sources?

• https://www.meijergardens.org/explore/two-indeterminate-lines/
• https://soundcloud.com/user-853823602/45-two-indeterminate-lines-bernar-venet
• https://www.phillips.com/detail/bernar-venet/NY010419/168
• http://www.artnet.com/artists/bernar-venet/two-indeterminate-lines-1-a-D8M9LuwLj6Ip27xH5kwR0Q2
• http://www.artnet.com/artists/bernar-venet/two-indeterminate-lines-a-MNt59hxFIndhyPCosdZsLw2
• https://sculpturemagazine.art/bernar-venet/
• https://culturenow.org/entry&permalink=09423&seo=Two-Indeterminate-Lines_Bernar-Venet-and-MIT-Public-Art-Collection
• https://www.clevelandart.org/art/2013.42

---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:27, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

@AquaDTRS: Looks like there's a series here. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 01:27, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

@Another Believer: I've seen some of these sources before and looked through all of them. I don't think they help in establishing the notability of the subject of this article (i.e. the 1993 sculpture located at MIT) because:

These describes a piece of work with the same name and is located elsewhere (Meijer gardens):

• https://www.meijergardens.org/explore/two-indeterminate-lines/
• https://soundcloud.com/user-853823602/45-two-indeterminate-lines-bernar-venet

These are other pieces of work with the same name but do not describe the subject of the article:

• https://www.phillips.com/detail/bernar-venet/NY010419/168
• http://www.artnet.com/artists/bernar-venet/two-indeterminate-lines-1-a-D8M9LuwLj6Ip27xH5kwR0Q2
• http://www.artnet.com/artists/bernar-venet/two-indeterminate-lines-a-MNt59hxFIndhyPCosdZsLw2
• https://www.clevelandart.org/art/2013.42

This describes another piece of work with the same name, and even though the conceptualization of the pieces may be similar, it makes no reference to the subject of the article:

• https://sculpturemagazine.art/bernar-venet/

This just describes the subject of the article with no claim of notability:

• https://culturenow.org/entry&permalink=09423&seo=Two-Indeterminate-Lines_Bernar-Venet-and-MIT-Public-Art-Collection

If there are no other sources that can establish the notability of the subject, then as per WP:WHYN and WP:GNG the subject should be merged into a list or article describing the subject. -- AquaDTRS (talk) 08:25, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

AquaDTRS, Right, can't these sources be used to expand the scope of the article beyond just the 1993 version on the MIT campus? "Two Indeterminate Lines is a series of artworks by Bernar Venet..." ? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:11, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

@Another Believer: Sure, but what is the claim to significance/notability? Even if there exist sources describing the subject out there, the article itself need to exert a claim stating why it should have its own article (i.e. WP:SIGNIFICANCE). At the moment, this article and the rest I've merged are simply claiming WP:INHERENT notability by merely existing on the MIT campus. The article should also be concerned with the current sources available to describe its subject rather than the possibility of future sources appearing to claim notability (see WP:PAGEDECIDE). -- AquaDTRS (talk) 17:44, 22 March 2020 (UTC)