Talk:Twelve Little Preludes

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This was an improperly written article. The collection was a 19th century compilation of works by Bach. From the title, Griepenkerl and C.J. Peters intended this selection as a practise book for beginners. Since it used only primary sources, it appeared to be original research. I have therefore replaced it by a redirect. If it appeared on List of compositions of Johann Sebastian Bach, it could be a redirect there. There was no justification for the article. Perhaps as a very short stub directing readers to the 3 groups of pieces from which it was drawn, it might have made sense; but not as an article directly using primary sources, essentaally discussing each of the original compositions, it made no sense. There have been many compilations of works of Bach, e.g. the volume published by Breitkopf & Härtel and edited by Lohmann, appropriating keyboard works for the organ. I cannot see the point of a lengthy article, using only primary sources, duplicating other content. Without a proper source, I cannot see how this article can be justified. Mathsci (talk) 07:04, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

I have restored the article. Most of it is original research by Francis Schonken, writing as if he was a Bach scholar. It is a long essay and should be replaced either by a stub or a redirect if the topic has not been discussed by Bach scholars. As far as I know, the collection was abandoned in the NBA, so presumably a commentary exists on why that happened. Instead of writing as an authority on Bach, as he has in the article, I suggest that Francis Schonken produces at least one substantial secondary source concerning this collection.

There ares two sentence on the collection in David Schulenberg's book on The Keyboard Music of J.S. Bach. As well as mentioning the origin and content of the collection, Schulenberg also points out the unreliability of the 19th century collection. he also mentions a reliable 1973 edition where all the preludes can be found. Those sentences and a reference to Schulenberg with a brief and undetailed summary of the pieces are all that is required for the stub. Not this Dog's Breakfast. I will look for other secondary sources; since these are elementary pieces, they almost certainly have been discussed in books for beginners or for teachers. Mathsci (talk) 07:32, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Schulenberg does discuss what happened to various preludes in the NBA. That content does not appear anywhere in the article. It indicates that Francis Schonken does not understand the material. Mathsci (talk) 08:07, 8 January 2017 (UTC)