Talk:Turkmeneli
Latest comment: 8 years ago by PanchoS in topic Proposal to merge this controversial "stub" into the Iraqi Turkmen or Iraqi Turkmen Front articles
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Proposal to merge this controversial "stub" into the Iraqi Turkmen or Iraqi Turkmen Front articles edit
Even on the wiki in Turkish the article is controversial and is proposed for such a merger. It can't anyway not be expanded as it covers only some nationalist project by a political organization, without any possible scientific backing as to the frontiers of this territory. --Pylambert (talk) 22:58, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed, you will not find any mention of such region outside the circles of the Iraqi Turkmen Front. Since no one voiced any objections for the move suggestion I will go ahead and redirect it to Iraqi Turkmen Front.--Rafy talk 16:19, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- @Pylambert and Rafy: I recovered the original state of this small article because I consider it a relevant concept, controversial or not. Also, covering it doesn't mean condoning it. I just wanted to notice you, so all of us can reconsider the decision. Regards, PanchoS (talk) 08:48, 4 December 2015 (UTC)
- This turkmeneli is doesn't exist and neverland. They claim our territory. Azertom111 (talk) 02:30, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Azertom111: We don't exclusively cover existing entities. If this concept is relevant enough within Turkmen circles, and has been reliably covered by literature, then it should be covered by Wikipedia as well. This doesn't infer the claimed entity would exist or would ever come into existence. PanchoS (talk) 05:17, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- Please delete this article and map. Look at the map, they kidding with Kurds. Turkmens are not natives in Iraq. Turkmens are come from central Asia to Iraq. Turkmens lives in only Kirkuk and Talafar. Turkmen are only in Talafar majority. But now Kurds are majority in Kirkuk. Kurds and Arabs have a majority in other cities and provinces. Azertom111 (talk) 07:45, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
- Dear sockpuppet: most certainly Turkmen don't represent a majority in the area they claim. Neither is it their original area of settlement. So the basis of these claims seems quite shaky, which however doesn't stop Turkmen nationalists from claiming the area quite consistently. At Wikipedia, we're only collecting what exists in the world, both in objective reality and in discourses. We're not to decide, if their claims are legitimate or not.
And if you should ever return to Wikipedia after being indefinitely blocked, then please don't continue with your disruptive editing style, but continue like you did here: discussing what you deem controversial.
Best regards, PanchoS (talk) 17:55, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
- Dear sockpuppet: most certainly Turkmen don't represent a majority in the area they claim. Neither is it their original area of settlement. So the basis of these claims seems quite shaky, which however doesn't stop Turkmen nationalists from claiming the area quite consistently. At Wikipedia, we're only collecting what exists in the world, both in objective reality and in discourses. We're not to decide, if their claims are legitimate or not.