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mention in Garden of Cyrus
In Thomas Browne's 'Epistle Dedicatory' [Wilkin ed., 1835] to The Garden of Cyrus (1658) he says, "… while the ingenuous delight of tulipists, stands saluted with hard language, even by their own professors.", with a footnote (Browne's) citing "'Tulipo-mania;' Narrencruiid, Laurenberg. Pet. Hondius in lib. Belg."
While the scope of this article seems to be the more modern usage, as an economic bubble [Mackay, 1841], I wonder whether this might have some relevance. I think a secondary reference is needed, perhaps it is mentioned in Dash (2001). cygnis insignis 17:12, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but I can't figure out what Browne's sentence means, much less the footnote. I'd love to see contemporary or near-contemporary accounts cited, but first I'd like to know what it means, then decide whether it is relevant. As far as Dash, I was appalled by the book. It just repeated quaint old stories. Looking for backup in the notes, I found there was no backup. Smallbones(smalltalk) 18:25, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
Opium Bulbs?
Were most of the tulip bulbs actually opium bulbs and the people who were going crazy trying to buy the bulbs were actually opium addicts? Historians cover up that the spice trade was actually about opium and some people in the Netherlands were involved in the "spice" trade at this time. It makes more sense that people who are addicted to opium would pay a extremely high price for opium bulbs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.40.194.206 (talk) 15:08, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
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reference to Kipper und Wipperzeit
The article compares tulipmania to the slightly earlier (almost contemporaneous) Kipper und Wipperzeit, which was a gross debasement of the currencies of the Holy Roman Empire, a forerunner to the 1923 hyperinflation of the Weimar Republic. The article refers to similar manias as tulipmania occurring in the Kipper und Wipperzeit, with a reference to Kindleberger's book "Manias, Panics and Crashes". I have the 1996 third edition, rather than the later, but there is no mention of manias in it and I don't see why there should be - they are quite different phenomena. During hyperinflations, people are more concerned about buying bread than buying some exotic collectible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andersmith (talk • contribs) 03:07, 2 March 2018 (UTC)