Talk:Trust Issues/GA1

GA Review

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Nominator: Dxneo (talk · contribs) 20:10, 7 August 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: Ippantekina (talk · contribs) 02:44, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

I was about to review the article Tyla (South African singer) but it was taken by another user haha :) will review this one instead. Ippantekina (talk) 02:44, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, have fun! dxneo (talk) 08:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

• First impression: I would leave out the tweet as I don't see it as particularly constructive to this article. Ippantekina (talk) 02:48, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

   Done. dxneo (talk) 08:27, 8 August 2024 (UTC)

Prose review

• Suggest adding {{Short description}} manually

Why? Ifi may ask. dxneo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Currently no short description is shown in the GAN template. I know shortdesc is auto generated but I'd highly recommend adding it normally in case of technical issues depending on device. Ippantekina (talk) 03:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done although I know someone is gonna remove it in a few days. dxneo (talk) 12:54, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• It's a slow → "It is a slow"
• "Trust Issues" was one of the four singles taken from Drake's 2011 studio album, Take Care but infobox/lead says otherwise?

That's what the source say, what's your suggestion? dxneo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

I'd swap "singles" with "tracks". Ippantekina (talk) 03:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done dxneo (talk) 12:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• On May 20, 2011, he released "Dreams Money Can Buy",[5] followed by "Marvins Room", released on June 9, 2011,[6] and a promotional video for the latter on June 28, 2011.[7] No idea how this fact relates to this article

Background information; how the song, album, and compilation came about. I was worried that I couldn't find any source stating that "Marvins Room" was officially released on June 28, that's why I opted to the promotional video. However, that can be removed. dxneo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Still not convinced.. I'd leave all of this outside the article which concerns one specific song and not other songs. Ippantekina (talk) 03:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done dxneo (talk) 12:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• is four minutes and 41 seconds long → "4 minutes and 41 seconds long" per MOS:NUMNOTES
• half confessional, half ode to drank Seriously I have no idea what this means

Honestly, I was following the source and I kind of understand it after listening to the song. Still can be removed. dxneo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

You can add quotation marks and attribution. Ippantekina (talk) 03:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done dxneo (talk) 12:53, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• it also intensifies to a powerful conclusion as Drake's vocals soar above the energetic arrangement potentially editorializing/POV

Meaning? dxneo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

This sounds like an opinion and not an encyclopedic writing. I suggest adding attribution. Ippantekina (talk) 03:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done dxneo (talk) 12:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• Outside North America, it peaked at number 35 in the United Kingdom on the UK R&B Chart,[1] and number 90 on the UK Streaming Chart → "In the United Kingdom, it peaked at number 35 on the UK R&B Chart and number 90 on the UK Streaming Chart".
• Note b is redundant imo.
• was supposedly singing about his then-girlfriend Selena Gomez Should be removed per WP:SPECULATION
• Move "Charts" before "Certifications"

I have addressed all the changes, what's left are those I have individually replied to above. Thank you again for the instructions. dxneo (talk) 11:31, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

Responded above! :) Ippantekina (talk) 03:39, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

Source review

• Spotchecks not done. Ippantekina (talk) 05:25, 12 August 2024 (UTC)

• Spotchecks: 2, 14, 19, 29
• Can you help me explain the reliability of:
  • Singersroom
  • The Edge
  • earmilk

— Ippantekina (talk) 03:42, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

• singersroom.com  : is classified as marginally reliable by the Cite Highlighter script and throughout my AfD journey, it was frequently used as a reliable source. It has also been referenced by reliable publications as well.
• theedgesusu.co.uk   was never assessed at WP:RS/N, but it referenced over 100 times and on Ye (2018) which is now GA. I think what matters most is the content on the source.
• earmilk.com   has been referenced for at least 816 times on Wikipedia

dxneo (talk) 12:52, 15 August 2024 (UTC)

@Dxneo: I'd like to see more thorough assessment of these sources i.e. editorial oversight, reputation (being used in Metacritic / mentioned by other publications for example). The fact that these sources are used in other GAs is not a strong enough argument. (Singersroom pass this) Ippantekina (talk) 04:36, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Assessing sources is out of my expertise, so I actually do not know where to look for what you are asking of me. At this point, what I can do is try to replace the sources, if possible. dxneo (talk) 10:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

This was really difficult, but here is earmilk (Earmilk) and here is The Edge (The Edge). dxneo (talk) 12:57, 16 August 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for addressing everything. Happy to pass this :) Ippantekina (talk) 02:57, 19 August 2024 (UTC)