Talk:Tribes of Arabia

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Map: Hizwa?? oder Nizwa. Pyule — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.142.8.120 (talk) 13:43, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

This article should contain a general description of Arabian tribes. MP (talk) 11:24, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Map

Slackerlawstudent ,the article needs several maps depending on years (from - to) . Ammar (^Talk - ^{Don't Talk}) 08:03, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Maps of what exactly? Slacker 10:33, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Examples:

• nowadays tribes:[1][2][3]
• former ages tribes:[4]

Ammar (^Talk - ^{Don't Talk}) 11:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Do you know any good (free) software for adding text to maps? Slacker 11:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes , [5] Ammar (^Talk - ^{Don't Talk}) 12:08, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

ok i'll make it by myself whenever u finish the article . Ammar (^Talk - ^{Don't Talk}) 13:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

This map is ridiculously wrong. Who made this?? Iraq--the metropolitan areas of Persian Sasanid Empire that contained its capital, Ctesiphon (a few miles south of modern Baghdad) is placed inside the Lakhmid territories (a vassal of the Sasanids)?? That is rich. But then again, this map also places all the Levantine coast, to include Jerusalem and Damascus inside Ghassanid territory (a vassal of the Byzantine)! Who makes these nonsensical stuff? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.25.236 (talk) 05:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

Ad and Thamud perished because of their decadence

I don't think that statement belongs anywhere near Wikipedia. 194.80.32.12 15:25, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

I think it's alright cuz the paragraph states how Arabs used to view them. Hakeem.gadi (talk) 13:40, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

A lot more work

This article misses a lot. First of all, it does not really talk about how the tribes are classified. True, you have Qahtan and Adnan, but this classification is higher than a tribe; it is a "sha'b" and within in each are many tribes; within each tribe are many "butoon"...etc.

Second, you do not follow a proper naming system. As an example, you have listed a lot of tribes (as well as lower classifications as low as faseel or even bait (house)) under “banu” (children of…); actually they are all children of someone so using that is not practical since you can have everyone under that – the word banu does not even necessarily signify a tribe. You also used “Al”, which can be added to almost all of them. Al signifies that this is less than a tribe because it Al means “the house of”, which is a faseel, the lowest of formal classification.

Moreover, I don’t think you need maps as much as needing charts to show how each group descends from another. Example, Quraish decends from Mudhar (the tribe), Hashim (in the article Banu Hashim) descend from Quraish; and Banu Abdul Muttalib descend from Hashim. All of those descend from Adnan.

I’m not an expert in Nasab, but I can see that this needs a lot more study.

--Maha Odeh 07:12, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

there was 380 arabian tribe before islam

after islam many tribes move to another lands looking for good land and water outside Arabian Peninsula

What is a tribe?

In this context, how does a tribe differ from other groups, such as a sept or a clan? Are tribes typically endagamous? What Arabic word are we translating when we say "tribe"? Of what subgroups is a tribe typically composed? Are several tribes commonly permanently alied in a larger group or structure? Jim.henderson (talk) 02:48, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Arab tribes in the 21st Century

The article needs to point out the fact that early Arab tribes have spread across a wide are, away from the Arabian peninsula. These include North Africa, Sudan, Eritrea, and areas of Somalia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.6.101 (talk) 18:10, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't think there are any Arab tribes in Ethiopia or Somalia. Majority of them immigrated to the northern middle east not africa. Akmal94 (talk) 01:48, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

Rule of 70

What does that section mean? There’s no information about these rules, citations, or when they took place FearThyMoose (talk) 23:50, 10 November 2019 (UTC)

Adnan

The people of the Arab peninsula came from Adnan like Sheikh Tamim Al Thani. Al Saud 202.187.226.76 (talk) 08:57, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

so, some of these tribes arabified

the maghreb, turning it too, into arabian peninsula traits, in language, attire, ethnicity, etc; so that the indigenous peoples there never needed to 'wish' being like saudi arabians, again, 'just in case'.. it's telling that some tribes massive migrations, if not demographic invasion, of the maghreb is linked under related articles, one out of merely three links.. 12.146.12.12 (talk) 05:09, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

Banu Kinanah in Yemen & Somalia

There are descendants of Kinanah in Yemen & Somalia, from certain Hijaz -> Yemen->Northern Somalia Sadah migrations across the the Tihamah and then Gulf of Aden.

Some such genealogies going to Kinanah is this one(long):

Ismail bin Muhammad bin Hussein bin Uthman bin Abdullah bin Adan bin Hirzi bin Mahmoud bin Aqal bin Hajar bin Aden bin Jibrail bin Ali bin Umar bin Makhil bin Ishaq bin Sa’ad bin Musa bin Zubayr al Awwal bin Abd al Rahman bin Ishaq bin Ahmad bin Muhammad bin Hussein bin Ali bin Muhammad bin Hamza al Muttahar bin Abdullah bin Ayoub bin Qasim bin Ahmad bin Ali bin Isa bin Yahya bin Muhammad bin Ali bin Muhammad al Jawad bin Ali bin Musa bin Ja’far bin Muhammad bin Zayn bin Husayn bin Ali bin Abu Talib bin Abdul Muttalib bin Hashim bin Abd Manaf bin Qusayy bin Kilab bin Murrah bin Ka’ab bin Lu’ayy bin Ghalib bin Quraish bin Malik bin Nadr bin Kinanah.

Asking Skitash to not remove Yemen and/or Somalia from Kinanah section with no reason or justification for doing so other than ambiguous claims of “original research” with no proof for these allegations Ismail7Hussein (talk) 21:59, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

You need to support your edits with sources. ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 22:58, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Yeah I added citations Ismail7Hussein (talk) 21:00, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

@Skitash Please stop reverting the edits. WP:UNDUE applies to concepts like(quote):

“…the article on the Earth does not directly mention modern support for the flat Earth concept, the view of a distinct (and minuscule) minority; to do so would give undue weight to it.”

Meanwhile sound genealogies, ancestry and lineages such as the ones mentioned in the citations are certainly not a concept, certainly not the view of a minority and certainly not WP:UNDUE.

This is the 4th time you have reverted edits on this article, and if there is any more reverting than this administrators will intervene.

Ismail7Hussein (talk) 10:53, 2 August 2024 (UTC)