Talk:Transnistria/voting

The first subpage vote

Do you support the idea of having a subpage to help with ease of navigation and discussion by keeping the voting (and voting related discussion) separate from the general discussion?

• Support Mathmo ^Talk 05:21, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
• Support I had an initiative to ease discussion [1]; unfortunately it failed.Dl.goe 16:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

  It looked neat, but also at the same time too much complexity for most people to take in all at once. This current proposal gets maximum benifit for a minimum amount of effort/confusion. Mathmo ^Talk 17:59, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

• Support for future. However last voting is almost over, we should not repeat it here.--MariusM 01:58, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

  Agreed, the purpose I had in mind is only for future polls. Would be disruptive to start again with ones currently going on (or even nearly finished). Mathmo ^Talk 03:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

• Strong Oppose to the new trend that edits can be solved by voting on them, this is not a popularity contest, and we have used voting twenty times in the last month or two, this is wrong, and if you make a special page just for that, then you make it appear as if it is a valid way to sort of edit disputes and that a vote can over ride common sense arguments Pernambuco 10:52, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

  Thanks for the laugh! Anyway, more seriously.... it is exactly because of the reasons you mentioned of there being 20 times in the last month or so that we should have a seperate page for this. Because having this much voting going on hinders other discussion, and even the voting itself by making the talk page unwieldy. Secondly, wikipedia is not an anarchy where people can do whatever the hell they feel like doing. You would find edit wars way more widespread than they are now. This is why it is advisable to have community consenus before performing a potentionally controversial action. However I do agree with what I believe is your general feeling that voting is not the be all and end all, but when used together without thought out and logical discussion it can be a very powerful tool for moving forward to a resolution of a conflict. However as it is now I feel it is hampering the ability to have those said discussions while voting is kept on the same page. Mathmo ^Talk 12:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

  I don't think that keeping a separate voting subpage will affect the frequency of voting proposals. Just don't forget to include a link to it in some appropriately visible spot on the talk page. --Illythr 14:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

  Wasn't making any predictions over if this would make voting proposals less or more frequent, personally I hope they are less frequent. Taking a straw poll is generally only done when you feel there is a need to get an idea of the general consensus, which never really needs to happen when everything is going smoothly. Though considering how controversial this article can get I suspect it will be used many times in the future. Have already mentioned I'll put a visible link somewhere on the main talk page once (and if) a consensus is reached here for it. Giving it a whole week to run seems like a fair and typical length of time. Mathmo ^Talk 14:57, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

• Apathetic Jonathanpops 00:23, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
• Indifferent Illythr 14:36, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Polls are evil and unnecessary, we need discussion, not polling. Pernambuco 16:36, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Am not saying this will reduce or make inferior in anyway whatsoever the discussion. Rather I'm saying the opposite, that this will improve the discussion by having subpage for the voting. Keeps the discussion uncluttered up and improves the flow of it, which in the ends improves the quality of the discussion. Mathmo ^Talk 13:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)