Talk:Transatlantic crossing
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Primacy of New York City
editThe current (July 2006) text reads:
- "From the 17th century onward, almost all transatlantic crossings bound for North America were destined for New York City."
No support is given for this proposition. While it may be true that eventually the majority of traffic went to NYC, there were other very active ports, such as Quebec, Halifax, and Boston (terminus for many immigrant crossings and early steamship voyages). Perhaps the plurality or majority of crossings went to the Port of New York, but without support for the claim that it was the destination point for "almost all" transatlantic crossings from the Seventeenth Century onwards, this text should be removed. Kablammo 13:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
I have deleted the entire paragraph. While New York may have become the busiest port on the western shore, there were many others "from the 17th century onward". This article is about "transatlantic" and not about New York, and to devote a paragraph to one important port would invite similar treatment for Genoa, Le Havre, the St. Lawrence ports, Halifax, Glasgow, Southhampton, Liverpool, Hamburg, etc. Kablammo 01:14, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
Moved The Page
editHad Moved the Page. --Trulystand700 (talk) 00:08, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
Requested move
edit- The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the move request was: page moved to Transatlantic crossing per discussion below. I also made Transatlantic into a dab page. There are now a handful of links that want fixing. -GTBacchus(talk) 03:11, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
Transatlantic Crossing → Transatlantic — the title was okay. If at all, this should be moved to Transatlantic crossing, but not Transatlantic Crossing. E-Kartoffel (talk) 09:37, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Transatlantic is jargon with various meanings, in another context it could mean transatlantic cable for example. The c of crossing should not be capitalised however. Andrewa (talk) 10:49, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- Support the article covers the aspect of something being 'transatlantic' in itself. No matter what, it is not a proper noun and the 'c' should not be capitalized. Arsenikk (talk) 12:54, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose. Transatlantic should be the disambiguation page, and this page should be at Transatlantic crossing. Powers T 13:48, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- Agree. No change of vote. Andrewa (talk) 18:54, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well it definitely shouldn't be moved to Transatlantic because that is just an adjective, and doesn't really mean anything by itself (and on the issue of making the "c" lower case, well I have no comment because I don't really agree with that policy). --WikiDonn (talk) 19:43, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- Oppose using adjective form. 76.66.200.95 (talk) 05:02, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Crossing times by sea needed
editAt present, the only light shed on this subject is mention of a new record crossing time of about 3 1/2 days in 1952, near the end of the passenger liner era. What was the typical time, and, more importantly, what were typical crossing times in, say, 1925, 1900, 1850, and 1750? It matters, because at a date still within living memory there was no other way to make the trip than by sea, and the time it took to move people, goods, and (before there was a transatlantic telegraph cable) news across the Atlantic had major social, commercial and political impacts on both sides. 66.81.222.203 (talk) 23:56, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
- Can't use Wikipedia for this info. That would risk someone doing a _shudder_ table. No, better avoid that. WP gets worse, and worse, and worse. --jae (talk) 14:28, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Aviation
editA SR-71 jet did it in 1971- 1 hour, 54 minutes and 56.4 seconds! https://tacairnet.com/2015/09/02/the-sr-71s-record-breaking-transatlantic-crossing/ 79.77.208.60 (talk) 20:44, 5 April 2021 (UTC)
Removed radio section
editI've removed the transatlantic radio section as off-topic, according to the scope of the article laid out in the first para. I've been wrong before, though, so here's the removed text in case somebody wants it. --Lockley (talk) 21:18, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Transatlantic radio communication was first accomplished on 12 December 1901 by Guglielmo Marconi who, using a temporary receiving station at Signal Hill, Newfoundland, received a Morse code signal representing the letter "S" sent from Poldhu, in Cornwall, United Kingdom.[1] Guglielmo Marconi initiated commercial transatlantic radio communications between his high power long wave wireless telegraphy stations in Clifden Ireland and Glace Bay, Nova Scotia on 17 October 1907.
- Amateur radio operators are usually credited with the discovery of transatlantic radio communication in the shortwave bands. The first successful transatlantic tests were conducted by radio amateurs in December 1921 operating in the 200 meter medium-wave band, the shortest wavelength then available to amateurs. In 1922 hundreds of North American amateurs were heard in Europe at 200 meters and at least 20 North American amateurs heard amateur signals from Europe. The first two way transatlantic shortwave radio contacts were completed by radio amateurs in November 1923, on 110 meters.
- Marconi initiated the first commercial shortwave transatlantic radio communication between the UK to Canada using his Beam Wireless Service which went into commercial operation on 25 October 1926. Shortwave radio vastly increased the speed and capacity of transatlantic communications at dramatically reduced cost compared to telegraph cable and long wave radio.
- Telstar was the first communications satellite to provide commercial transatlantic communications. It was launched by on 10 July 1962, the first privately sponsored space launch. Communications satellites vastly increased the speed and quality of transatlantic communication, but transatlantic fiber optic cables have carried the vast majority of transatlantic communications traffic since the early 1990s.
References
- ^ "Milestones:Transmission of Transatlantic Radio Signals, 1901". IEEE Global History Network. IEEE. Retrieved 29 July 2011.