Talk:Train ferry

River Nile

Are any of the ferries on the River Nile train ferries?

Tabletop 10:59, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Rail causeway from India to Sri Lanka

A ferry though not necessarily a train ferry links India and Sri Lanka over a narrow and shallow stretch of water. It replaces a former railway line over a man-made causeway , which was destroyed by a cyclone.

Is this a misunderstanding of this map? The inundated "bridge" is a natural feature, flooded within a geological timescale. I suggest a deletion. {{Dubious}} tag added. --Old Moonraker (talk) 17:48, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Further: The "bridge" to Sri Lanka may have been washed away as recently as 1500 BCE, see here, and not as I suggested above. In the 1950s the ferry service was timed to connect with rail services from Madras [1]. Many online encyclopedias (e.g., Encarta) mistakenly call the steamer service a train ferry, presumably for this reason. This line to the terminal of the steamer service was itself washed away in 1964—see Dhanushkodi—possibly a further source of confusion. In short, it's not a train ferry and shouldn't really be in the article. -- Old Moonraker (talk) 14:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Now deleted. --Old Moonraker (talk) 18:42, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Checked the link: still works (see "Dhanushkodi Pier to Talaimannar) so removing this entry again. --Old Moonraker (talk) 15:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

It isn't a natural bridge, it was man made. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 18:38, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

Impressive, eh? See Rama’s bridge is only 3,500 years old. --Old Moonraker (talk) 19:01, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

U.S. to Cuba

Three are listed, without citation. Are we sure that the New York to Havana was a train ferry, given the distance? I have changed this to Palm Beach, as per West India Fruit and Steamship Company. I will research further, but please reinstate if I am wrong. --Old Moonraker (talk) 16:36, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

It's now back, with a link. Thanks User:Tabletop. --Old Moonraker (talk) 06:49, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Key West - Havana Train Ferry

This train ferry service is mentioned in several Cuban sources and even used by Hershey Company to provide direct freight cars operating from their Cuban chocolate factory to the companys main factories in the United States. This link was in common operation at least in the 1920´s and in 1930´s. It was said to be operated by Florida Southern Railroad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.115.118.82 (talk) 07:55, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Burma

There has been since 1925 a ( train ) ferry service over 7.000 metre wide River Salween estuary between Martaban and Moulmein ( South ). Actually the ferries which have provided the service were not technically " pure " train ferries but at least in 1942 to 1945 the Japanese relaid to the deck of the ferry two metre gauge rails which made it possible to transfer even locomotives to Burma Railway main network from isolated Moulmein South - Ye railway section. When the new 415 km railway connecting Bangkok in Siam and Moulmein in Burma was completed in October 1943 the importance of the Martaban - Moulmein railway ferry increased. One "unofficial " source even claims that the Japanese Military Adminstration in Southern Burma introduced from Japan one old small train ferry which had been held there in reserve, to operate this Martaban - Moulmein ( train ) ferry service.

Vietnam - Cambodia

This rail ferry service was operated by the Japanese Southern Army ( Railway Department ) located at Saigon in 1942 to 1945 between Mytho ( My Tho ) in Cochin China and Phnom Pehn in Cambodia along the River Mekong. This service made it possible for the Japanese to provide a railway link all the way from Singapore to Fusan in Korea ( then called Chosen ) by late 1944. It should be noted that all a round year shipping service from South China Sea up to Phnom Pehn can be provided by ships up to 5.000 ton ( in high water season 8.000 ton ). Also here is claimed an introducion of old Japanese train ferry taken out of reserve where it was held by Imperial Japanese Navy to River Mekong as early as in spring 1942. This rail ferry service was provided as an alternative for proposed 250 km railway from Saigon to Phnom Pehn which was started by the Japanese in 1942 but not completed in August 1945 by the time of unconditional surrendering of Japan to the Allied Powers.

Car ferries in Ludington

I ran across these two sources and think they might be good to put into the article on the Pere Marquette Car Ferry.

Clarke Historical Library Car ferry Pere Marquette 18 left Ludington for Milwaukee shortly before midnight, Sept. 8, 1910; capt. Peter Kilty. 29 loaded R.R. freight cars & 62 people ... clarke.cmich.edu/collar_helen_beaverisland/biok.htm - 17k - Cached - Similar pages Clarke Historical Library - Saginaw County The Rail Road Excursion; The Flint and Pere Marquette Rail Road. Detroit, MI: 1862. Indian and Pioneer History of the Saginaw Valley. ... clarke.cmich.edu/localhistory/Saginaw.htm - 74k - Cached - Similar pages 7&6=thirteen (talk) 01:09, 3 April 2008 (UTC)Stan

Bristol and South Wales Union Railway

I believe that this recent addition was a passenger ferry operated by a railway company, rather than a train ferry. I suggest deletion, subject of course to WP:IDONTKNOWIT.--Old Moonraker (talk) 06:24, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Done --Old Moonraker (talk) 22:36, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

List of Train Ferries

This article is mostly just a list of train ferries around the world. I propose we create the page List of Train Ferries, move all the Examples over to that, and have a much smaller article including the intro, History, Hazards, and Portage Railway. Thoughts? -M.Nelson (talk) 19:31, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

"Egypt: A ferry, not a train ferry"

As it's not a train ferry, should it be here in the "Train ferry" article? Suggesting a delete. --Old Moonraker (talk) 21:53, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

No defenders—implementing.--Old Moonraker (talk) 13:59, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

The Miyajima ferry is also not a train ferry, I don't know that it's relevant to this particular article that it happens to be run by a train company. 72.15.145.20 (talk) 18:07, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

UK: Dover-Dunkerque

Under United Kingdom, the article states: The Night Ferry from Dover to Dunkerque, France. Closed 31 October 1980, - replaced by the Channel Tunnel. This is wrong on several counts:

1. The ferry ran Dover-Dunkerque; the tunnel runs Folkestone-Calais. (Pedantic, I know.).

2. The ferry ceased in 1980 for revenue reasons.

3. When it ceased, there was no Channel Tunnel, indeed, it was not even planned at the time. Approval was given in 1987, construction began in 1988 and the tunnel opened in 1994, 14 years after the closure of the ferry service that the article says it replaced! Emeraude (talk) 12:23, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Rail-equipped LST

I came across pictures that contain LST with rail deck to load train for france during WWII. http://www.skylighters.org/wwiirr/ WWII archives http://wwiiarchives.net/servlet/gallery/520 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nrpf22pr (talk • contribs) 05:12, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

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Bristol and South Wales Union Railway

For the avoidance of doubt, if John from Idegon (or anyone else) feels that Brunel's intended train ferry just isn't worth putting in because it never happened and doesn't merit inclusion - sure, take it out, I'm not sure I agree but I don't object enough to disagree, so to speak. I've put it back in because the removal was cited to a piece of policy that doesn't suggest (let alone mandate) such removal, and hence might just be down to a misreading of policy. Pinkbeast (talk) 01:20, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

No misreading of policy. No misunderstanding of it either. We have all sorts of articles in all sorts of subjects. Plans that never saw any actual work don't belong in most if then. A car ferry that was never budgeted, no infrastructure built for, no boat commissioned for one location in one railroad does not belong in an article about car ferries in general, as it had nothing whatsoever to do with car ferries. It may be appropriate for the railroad's article, but probably not unless there is enough content to fork off a separate article on its history. John from Idegon (talk) 03:02, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

You certainly have both misread and misunderstood policy if you think WP:CRYSTAL has any bearing on a proposal from 1855. You also seem a bit confused about the proposal - a car ferry would have had very limited utility 30 years before the invention of the motor car. Pinkbeast (talk) 03:45, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

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Break of gauge

The ferries given with "bypasses a break of gauge" do technically so but as one of the ports is in a territory with a different gauge from that used on the vessel, the break of gauge is found in this very port.

I did not see any example of, and I think there isn't, a rail ferry bypassing a double break of gauge and thus not presenting any break of gauge in a port.

Regards, ULF109.40.131.202 (talk) 07:39, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Split the long list of ferries into a standalone list page

I took up on the 2009 suggestion in #List of Train Ferries to finally split the list into its own page List of train ferries. Z22 (talk) 04:26, 2 January 2022 (UTC)