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Arrangement of "Last Chance" table
editThere seems to be an edit war developing over the placement of chefs in the "Last Chance" table. Ordinarily, we order them so as to place the eliminated chef immediately below the chefs remaining in the competition, so as to show who is ELIMINATED from the competition, which makes sense when all the chefs begin competition together. This table shows us how chefs both ENTER and are ELIMINATED from the competition, and the table needs to be ordered so we can track the competition as well as identify the current defending chef. To do that we need two things: to mark who wins and who loses, but also to arrange the chefs in the order they enter the competition. Several editors, mostly IP's, have changed the table to match the elimination table. I think it's important to start a discussion here, so we can keep the table arranged so as to provide the viewer the maximum information. I'm also going to add to bits of information: a hidden note to this end, and a third color identifying the current jacket holder. Drmargi (talk) 19:19, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
- I think that the way you explained it is very good. I think that it is a good way to represent it, thankyou for the clarrification. Do you think that Andrew should be placed below Janine because he was techically eliminated before her in the official competiton. I'll wait for a reply.Worstcook (talk) 00:34, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
- True, but that doesn't have any bearing on the Last Chance and folks won't remember the order they were eliminated. The order of the table is order of entry, and they entered together. Realistically, that change is likely to cause more problems than it will solve. --Drmargi (talk) 00:44, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
- I was thinking that as well, about the fact that hey entered at the same time. Alright thanks for that clarification.Worstcook (talk) 02:01, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
- True, but that doesn't have any bearing on the Last Chance and folks won't remember the order they were eliminated. The order of the table is order of entry, and they entered together. Realistically, that change is likely to cause more problems than it will solve. --Drmargi (talk) 00:44, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
Placement of qualifying rounds
editThe longer this article gets, the more frustrated I get by the loooooong qualifying round table near the top. That's old information, it's a cumbersome table, and it doesn't tell us much. I can't help but wonder if it isn't time to establish a new section, lower down, that covers the qualifying eliminations. It really is preliminary to the main competition, and I think largely seen so the show could "go big" and have a chef to start the Last Chance Kitchen. Either that, or reformat the table so it isn't so tall. Or frankly, do away with it altogether. What's the thinking on this matter? --Drmargi (talk) 01:41, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- I had been thinking about it too and think that the table is just not needed at all. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 01:52, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. I was afraid to be WP:BOLD and just remove without some discussion, it given the number of IP editors we have. It was helpful during the eliminations, but pointless now. --Drmargi (talk) 01:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- The lists we have in the Contestants section are sufficient. I support getting rid of the table as well.WANI ♪♫♪ 02:31, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- I went ahead and removed it, now we see if it gets reverted. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 16:36, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- I have no objection, but I do hope you haven't jumped the gun a little, simply because it's the holidays and folks aren't very active, and thereby haven't had a chance to weigh in. Three of us is rather weak consensus, and I'd hate to have an edit war break out. But we'll see how it rolls. I do think there's some additional work that needs to be done give we've taken it out, but that will keep until after Christmas. --Drmargi (talk) 18:29, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- I agree the info is now useless. I think that it was just taking up space and confusing because of its size Worstcook (talk) 06:33, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
- I have no objection, but I do hope you haven't jumped the gun a little, simply because it's the holidays and folks aren't very active, and thereby haven't had a chance to weigh in. Three of us is rather weak consensus, and I'd hate to have an edit war break out. But we'll see how it rolls. I do think there's some additional work that needs to be done give we've taken it out, but that will keep until after Christmas. --Drmargi (talk) 18:29, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- I went ahead and removed it, now we see if it gets reverted. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 16:36, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- The lists we have in the Contestants section are sufficient. I support getting rid of the table as well.WANI ♪♫♪ 02:31, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
- I agree. I was afraid to be WP:BOLD and just remove without some discussion, it given the number of IP editors we have. It was helpful during the eliminations, but pointless now. --Drmargi (talk) 01:58, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
A new editor just added the table back by incorporating it into the main elimination table. I reverted it given the editor should have discussed here, and given the prevailing consensus, but also because there were problems with the table itself, notably that he/she used the same WIN label and color to identify chefs given a blue jacket, which is inaccurate. Drmargi (talk) 20:35, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Schedule Suggestion
editOne useful aspect to Wikipedia's presentation of TV shows is that it provides the dates for a season's episodes (or season ending date) for upcoming episodes. Since we now know there are three more episodes of Top Chef S9 (descriptions on the Bravo website), do you mind adding the outline structure for those episodes and air dates, and then just fill in the descriptions/details later like you do for other episodes after they air? Is it possible to do this for future Top Chef shows too - add episode air info as it becomes available even if the show hasn't aired yet? I know I can do this, but I don't want to step on anyone's toes. And I am sure I am not the only one who looks for info on upcoming episodes (especially when weeks are skipped sometimes). Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sbwinter2 (talk • contribs) 01:57, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
Prize Money
editThought it was weird that it didn't say how much the Top Chef prize was since it has varied in different seasons, so I added it in. Think my addition is ok but since this is a new add figured I'd mention it here just to see if everyone was ok with the format I used or if people had a different preference. I really had no preference on the format, just thought the info should be there. Norbytherobot (talk) 06:54, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
Notes
editHi, I hope it's okay but I made the note cause I felt it was important to make people know about the record of most Elimination Challenge wins. I understand if you choose to remove it. Revan46 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Revan46 (talk • contribs) 06:01, 28 February 2012 (UTC)