Talk:Tony Foster

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Schwede66 in topic Tony or Thomas

PROD

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Possibly, I've removed the PROD. The guy has an entry in the Dictionary of New Zealand Biography. As the DNZB article explains, there are a handful of "representative entries" in that work and they do not meet GNG, hence they are listed as part of the encyclopedia article. This page isn't one of the representative entries. Dozens of DNZB entries have been PRODded and taken to AfD; each and every one has been kept. I would therefore suggest that you don't waste anybody's time through proceeding to AfD. Schwede66 02:38, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Schwede66: thanks. Having read the NZ bio entry, I find the notability extremely slim, but will accept the ANYBIO reasoning. I find your tone to be a bit aggressive, which isn't necessary here. --- Possibly 02:42, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Sorry, I've written the above a few dozen times over the years. It's not meant to be aggressive but I certainly am a tad annoyed that I have to repeat myself so often. Not your fault, though. My apologies. Schwede66 03:02, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
OK thanks, I understand that now. I was working on Draft:Tony Foster (artist) when I checked this one for the disambiguation. You have to admit, new Zealand Tony Foster sounds like a fairly average dude. Maybe that's why the article says so little. I did manage to find this notice of a memorial tablet. --- Possibly 04:09, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Oh, there’ll be tons of sources for the New Zealander. There are a few standard places that don’t necessarily show up in a Google search. Your draft could do with a bit of a tidy up. Want me to have a go? Schwede66 08:41, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Sure thing, no need to ask. Not my draft really, I found it in Draft space. --- Possibly 13:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Tony or Thomas

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User:Schwede66 /User:Stuartyeates I was going to ask what you both think about changing the title to Thomas Foster (academic) or similar, since I found no mentions of "Tony" Foster the academic other than the NZ dictionary which uses Tony once in the last paragraph of it entry. There are multiple obituaries and articles, and none call him Tony. Thanks. --- Possibly 12:58, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

How the DNZB conveys the common name is obscure but yes, it’s often the last paragraph that mentions it. You would not get the common name from obituaries around then as at that time, they would always use birth names (which later moved to always using initials only). Tricky issue. Trust me – Tony Foster is the common name. Schwede66 17:24, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Have you seen Tony in other sources? --- Possibly 17:43, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Yes; have added another source. Schwede66 05:38, 6 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
Paperspast has him as Tony in theatre reviews and by initials in some criminal matters (he was the wronged party). Stuartyeates (talk) 21:04, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
I saw those, but didn't think they gave enough context to say it was him. I added a few more sources to the article, and some details. He's a pretty run of the mill guy, but I guess at some point someone cared enough to put him in the NZ dictionary, and to carry on his nickname for those in the future. From what I can tell of the articles I read, he was a respected school principal named Thomas. Anyway, unwatching. --- Possibly 23:21, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply