Talk:Tomás Yepes

Did you know nomination

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The result was: promoted by Yoninah (talk) 01:28, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

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• ... that although Tomás Yepes was a prominent painter during his lifetime in the Kingdom of Valencia, he was only mentioned in a publication of wide circulation over a century after his death? Source: "Therefore his name was known and esteemed in Valencia, where his prestige was to last the following century, though he would not appear in a publication of wider circulation until 1800." [1] Page 141.

5x expanded by The Most Comfortable Chair (talk). Self-nominated at 13:22, 24 August 2020 (UTC).

• Expansion, date, hook checks out. Copyvio spotcheck showed no violations. Seemingly the first DYK nomination, so no QPQ needed. What about adding one of his painting as image, like File:Vanitas Tomás Yepes.jpg? --Soman (talk) 10:57, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Vanitas by Tomás Yepes

ALT1: ... that although Tomás Yepes was a prominent painter (painting pictured) during his lifetime in the Kingdom of Valencia, he was only mentioned in a publication of wide circulation over a century after his death?

Thank you for your review Soman. Would this be all right? — The Most Comfortable Chair 14:09, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

for ALT1, great, thanks. --Soman (talk) 14:12, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

• Hi, I came by to promote this. Please add page numbers to the book sources. The hook is rather dull and the image chosen is downright dark. I suggest writing a different hook about his flower paintings and using the image in the infobox, which shows up best at thumbnail size. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 19:46, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Naturaleza muerta by Tomás Yepes

• ALT2: ... that the painter Tomás Yepes (work pictured) settled a lawsuit brought on by his elder sister with delivery of a few religious paintings?
• ALT3: ... that flower paintings (example pictured) by Tomás Yepes are considered to be distinctive and incomparable to other bodegón painters of the time?

Hello Yoninah, I have used the sfn referencing format and there are page numbers for book sources in the "Citations" sub-section. Wikipedia does have one religious painting by him but it is of low quality so I did not use that for ALT2. Thank you. — The Most Comfortable Chair 20:21, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks for the page numbers. ALT2 is a great hook! @Soman: would you mind reviewing ALT2? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 20:25, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

• for ALT2, i tried to check with snippet view, seems that the mentions of the lawsuit is there. --Soman (talk) 11:28, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Tomás Yepes/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Ealdgyth (talk · contribs) 17:50, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

I'll tackle this in the next few days. -- Ealdgyth (talk) 17:50, 28 January 2021 (UTC)

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

1. It is reasonably well written.

   a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):

2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.

   a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):

3. It is broad in its coverage.

   a (major aspects): b (focused):

4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.

   Fair representation without bias:

5. It is stable.

   No edit wars, etc.:

6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.

   a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):

7. Overall:

   Pass/Fail:

• Lead:
  • I know you linked "Bodegón" .. would it be possible to give a very brief description so you don't lose your readers to another article?

Done.

• Career:
  • "By 1630, he was in a commercial agreement with Medina del Campo for business of his paintings at the town's various fairs." I have no idea what is meant here - was del Campo selling Yepes' paintings at fairs? Or what?
  • "Medina del Campo was in a contract of 220 Valencian pounds with Castile for trade and fairs" again - this reads like a bad machine translation - waht is meant here?

Clarified both.

• Legacy:
  • "However, he was only mentioned in a publication of wide circulation over a century after his death—in 1800, when" ... this is unclear to me also - what is meant by this is something I'm not able to even begin to parse out.

A couple of sources I have found mention that Yepes was a well-known figure in Valencia, and yet he did not receive any significant recognition in Spain or outside the Kingdom of Valencia. They imply that it was strange for a person as prominent as Yepes to not have received wider reception (getting published in a book of wide circulation was considered to be prestigious). I have tried to clarify with "Despite of his local significance, he was only..." Or would you recommend rephrasing it in a different way? — The Most Comfortable Chair 13:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

• • Have any other big retrospectives happened since 1995?

When I was expanding the article I looked for sources or events that explored Yepes in detail post-1995. But I could only find catalogs and brief mentions of his paintings in books that discussed artworks in general. I looked again but I highly doubt that there have been any new substantial discoveries or studies on his life or else something would have turned up in those searches. — The Most Comfortable Chair 13:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

• Sources -
  • Make sure that any non-English sources have their language noted - I saw that "Varios Autores; Silvia Spitta; Valeria Wagner (2018)" does not at least.

The pages cited in the source are written in English. Should I still add the language parameter? — The Most Comfortable Chair 13:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

• • I'm taking the reliability of the non-English sources on faith.
  • Usual practice is to alphabetize the sources by last name of the author - this appears to be just jumbled up however.

Done.

• I randomly googled three phrases and only turned up Wikipedia mirrors. Earwig's tool no copyright concerns - the one thing it flagged is an obvious wikipedia scrape.

I did do some copyediting, please make sure I didn't change any sourced text beyond what the sources will support or that I haven't broken anything. Note that I did a LOT of copyediting on this... please make sure I haven't introduced errors.

I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow folks to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns, and let me know one of those places when the issues have been addressed. If I may suggest that you strike out, check mark, or otherwise mark the items I've detailed, that will make it possible for me to see what's been addressed, and you can keep track of what's been done and what still needs to be worked on. Ealdgyth (talk) 17:08, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for the review. Real life has been way too hectic lately but I have some free time now. I will starting working on these soon. Best. — The Most Comfortable Chair 06:21, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

I have been very late to respond and I apologize for that. I have responded to your queries Ealdgyth. Regards. — The Most Comfortable Chair 13:46, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

@The Most Comfortable Chair:, I was wandering by, perhaps a ping: @Ealdgyth:, pardon, I thought it conceivable you missed this. ~ cygnis insignis 22:48, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

ARGH... life has been insane. I'm passing this now. Ealdgyth (talk) 21:31, 18 May 2021 (UTC)