Talk:Tokyo in pop culture

Merge

This article was kept at Afd, and the keep supported at DRV. A second Afd was thrown out immediately as abusive. There was no consent anywhere to merge, and no merge discussion. This was apparently an attempt to by the merger to singlehandedly reverse the clear consensus. If you want to merge, discuss it. DGG (talk) 10:25, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the DRV you cite contains a merge discussion agreed to by the Admin who closed the first AfD. This AfD did not close with a decision to keep.

This article as currently written exactly duplicates the Tokyo in popular media section of the article Tokyo. This fork serves no purpose. The only reason this article is being retained is canvassing from Wikipedia:WikiProject Trivia and Popular Culture, which appears to be the sole functioning mission of that WikiProject. / edg ☺ ☭ 11:35, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

on the contrary, the project exists to improve as well as defend those articles, and I think we've been doing both. I certainly didnt come here from any canvassing--I follow all pop culture afds to the extend that there is time to cope with them all.

but in promising to improve and restore this material i seem to have been rashly attempting more than i can personally accomplish. The material is almost entirely material I am unfamiliar with, most of it in a language I do not understand, and the criticism and sourcing will mostly be in that language. Someone else will have to do it. I will therefore not oppose the merge if nobody else is willing to do the work. I cannot learn Japanese in time to work with the material, or even familiarise myself in time with the parts of the material in English. (Though I am getting familiar with manga, by way of Wikipedia, & I am beginning to appreciate it. I do intend to learn at least one more language--maybe it will be Japanese after all.) The possible material seems so extensive that it would possibly do better to be added to Wikipedia in more than one article, when someone who knows the subject take the time to do it. I can envision such an article as "Manga set in Tokyo." I wouldn't be surprised if there were eventually a book on the subject--but it would most likely be in Japanese.

so if nobody does upgrade the material and re-add the noteworthy parts of it, I will not oppose the merge. If someone can do it now, that would of course be much better. DGG (talk) 20:39, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Is this a Merge Proposal this time? If so, I say Merge and redirect. The article is an almost an exact copy of the Tokyo section, only differences are a few transitional words and wiki links. The overlap is too great. If it is deemed too trivial by a WikiProject then it can be taken care of in one article instead of two. Filpaul (talk) 19:31, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

For the record, yes, I consider the current result satisfactory. If the section grows, then it can be reconsidered. DGG (talk) 03:14, 11 December 2007 (UTC)