Talk:Toguz korgol

Toguz korgool is not the same with Kazakh game togyzkumalak

This page describes the game as mainly a Kyrgyz game. However, it is more known as togyzkumalak (online games, federation, tournaments). There is a slight distinction between the two games (rules and namings). It is important to rename OR write a new article for togyzkumalak.

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Many references are provided at http://www.wikimanqala.org/wiki/To%C4%9F%C4%B1z_qumalaq. 165.189.91.148 22:58, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The best English source on the game is now at http://mancala.wikia.com/wiki/Toguz_Kumalak — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.175.171.205 (talk) 22:53, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

Please move

Better moved to Toguz Kumalak, the name which is used in the west (at tournaments and most books). -84.175.177.140 (talk) 21:15, 5 December 2012 (UTC).

Removal of mention of Kyrgyztan and the name Toguz korgool

What was the reason for this revision? Is the deleted information inaccurate? 98.23.159.43 (talk) 00:47, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Very simple! The game is called "Toguz Kumalak" everywhere in the west except in Poland where one Kyrgyz woman tries to promote it. Actually the spelling is derived from the Russian name of the game, that is тогуз кумалак . Why? Because the Russian Nikolai Nikolaevich Pantusov described the game for the first time ever in 1906 (Kirgiskaya Igra Toguz Kumalak. In: Izvestia Obshchestva Arkheoligij, Istorij, i Etnografij pri Kazanskom Universitete (Kazan, Russia) 1906; 22: 249-252) - in a work, which was also widely read in western Europe. Another reason is that the Kyrgyz are a poor people and the Kazakhs have all the money. For that reason all the World Championships were sponsored by the Kazakh state. The Kyrgyz were asked to held them in 2014 but they couldn't sponsor it so the Kazakh decided to have the World Championships in Kazakhstan again (due to the World Nomad Games the tournament was postponed to April 2015). Another reason is that the Kazakh players are by far the strongest in the world. I don't know where you find the strongest Kyrgyz player in the world ranking list: at rank 20 or rather at rank 50? --84.175.182.104 (talk) 18:05, 28 December 2014 (UTC)

Rules

The article gives two different sets of rules. If these are both attempts to explain the rules of the same game, they should be merged. If they are rules for different games, or for different versions of the same game, this should be made clear. Maproom (talk) 13:53, 13 July 2015 (UTC)