Talk:Titles and styles of Napoleon
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What is the purpose of this article? edit
Everything that remains in this article (and everything I have already removed) belongs in the article for Napoleon. I do not know of any precedent elsewhere on Wikipedia for this information to have its own page. I won't move any more of it for the time being, but I see no reason for this article or for this content to be separated from that of Napoleon's.
–Darius von Whaleyland, Great Khan of the Barbarian Horde 02:18, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
1814-1815 - "Sovereign of the Island of Elba" edit
The article claims that in 1814-1815, the title and style was "His Imperial Majesty the Sovereign of the Island of Elba". Is this an actual title that was conferred on him, or is it a bit of sarcasm (either current or contemporaneous) about Napoleon's reduced circumstances at the time? Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:06, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- He actually was Sovereign. Seems pretty absurd but based on One hundred days : Napoleon's road to Waterloo, which I have electronic access to, he actually had that title. On Saint Helena he was just a prisoner but for some bizarre reason he was still sovereign of Elba. NativeForeigner Talk 18:37, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- Fancy seeing you here. And that's interesting information, thanks. It might be worth adding that reference to the article, as I expect I'm not the only person who will have this reaction. (Also, saying he was Sovereign is not the same thing as saying that Elba was an empire, as implied by the style "His Imperial Majesty", but I don't know if the book goes into that level of detail.) Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:36, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
- Yeah, I frankly don't know why this is on my watchlist. I'll mess with it when I find the time. I do imagine it goes into that level of detail but I can't be certain without checking. NativeForeigner Talk 11:47, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
- Fancy seeing you here. And that's interesting information, thanks. It might be worth adding that reference to the article, as I expect I'm not the only person who will have this reaction. (Also, saying he was Sovereign is not the same thing as saying that Elba was an empire, as implied by the style "His Imperial Majesty", but I don't know if the book goes into that level of detail.) Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 21:36, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Only that isn't true that he retained the Elba title after 1814. Whilst he did indeed have the title 'Sovereign of the Isle of Elba' prior to the Hundred Days, the Allies declare Napoleon's sovereignty over Elba ended on the 25th May 1815. And; as the British never recognized Napoleon as Emperor (the only recognition given to the French Republic was the Treaty of Amiens in 1802, which was prior to the Empire, the only title that the British ever conceded to Napoleon during his imprisonment was 'general', as they had never recognized him as a sovereign.JWULTRABLIZZARD (talk) 09:15, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Where are the Titles and Styles? edit
There are none here. 63.238.88.170 (talk) 16:37, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
Proposed Deletion edit
This article fails to address either the title or style of Napoleon. I have proposed that this article be deleted and any references to it instead be redirected to the page discussing the history of the title of the Emperor of the French. 215lax (talk) 16:20, 1 January 2021 (UTC)