Talk:Tiribazus

Latest comment: 4 years ago by LouisAragon in topic Misuse of source.. again

Misuse of source.. again edit

@Biainili: Ignoring the fact that you simply added the citation without a source linked to it, which makes it hard to find the source for the average reader - You do realize that the sentence 'Armenian satrap' [1] implies that he was the satrap of Armenia and not ethnically Armenian? There are likwise sources that call him Persian satrap [2], which I assume means that he was simply a Achaemenid satrap, not specifically ethnically Persian. Are you ignore me like here after attempting to do the same [3]? Or do I just compile a huge list of your disruptive edits and report you right now? Explain yourself. --HistoryofIran (talk) 13:44, 20 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

Again, you are the one who cherry picks random sources, not me. Go ahead and report me, I will not let you vandalize Armenian(also Georgian) pages with your Iranian bias. Biainili (talk) 13:55, 20 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

So basically you nothing to say besides attacking me.. again, great. Also, your wish is my command. HistoryofIran (talk)

See the latest added source: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tiribazus&diff=prev&oldid=952099771

Safrastian, Arshak (1934). "The Itinerary of Xenophon's Retreat". Asiatic Review New Series Vol.30 1934. East And West. p. 686. "Tiribazos was the titular head of the old Armenian feudal family of T'rpâtûnik', with his fortress-city at Khoshab. Xenophon called the river Teleboas, because this very name was well known to him from Herodotus; whereas his reproduction of the name Tirizbasos(Satrap of T'rpâtûnik') is nearer to the Armenian original, because there was no precedent for it in Hellenic literature of the time."

There's no need to discuss this any further.Biainili (talk) 16:09, 20 April 2020 (UTC)Reply

  • The winged ring symbol encircling a human figure is shown on coins of the Persian satrap Tiribazos -- Russel, James R. (1987). Zoroastrianism in Armenia. Harvard University Press. p. 347
  • The Persian satrap Tiribazos announced to Greek envoys the terms (...) Tiribazos, Persian satrap. -- Roy, James (2018). A Companion to Sparta. John Wiley & Sons Ltd. pp. 366, 802
  • Antalkidas, and the Persian satrap Tiribazos... (...) Tiribazos (Persian satrap) -- Harding, Philip. (2015). Athens Transformed, 404-262 BC: From Popular Sovereignty to the Dominion of Wealth. Routledge. pp. 28, 186
  • This offer was made to a new Persian plenipotentiary Tiribazus, whose command (...) -- Hornblower, Simon. (1991). The Greek World 479-323 BC. Routledge. p. 197
  • Like many Persian officials before him, however, Tiribazus' brief ascendancy was undone (...) So too did Persian officials after him: Pharnabazus used his relationship with Conon, Iphicrates, and Timotheus to secure and reinforce his centrality to the King's alliance with Athens, and Tiribazus did the same with Antalcidas and Sparta. -- Rop, Jeffrey (2019). Greek Military Service in the Ancient Near East, 401–330 BCE. Cambridge University Press. p. 98

The Armenian label appears to have been a regional designation, for Tiribazus was satrap of Western Armenia. Even the renowned Armenologist Russell refers to him as Persian. And no, we're not gonna cherrypick an outdated 1930's source in order to belittle the majority RS sources. - LouisAragon (talk) 12:53, 21 April 2020 (UTC)Reply