Talk:Tirana AS

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Technical move request archived 6 July 2024

The following was a discussion at technical move requests. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page as a full move request. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the technical move request was: moved. This request did not run as a full RM—the discussion at technical move requests generated extensive comments (and references a previous discussion at WP:RM/TR), so I thought it prudent to simply preserve it here at the article talk page for posterity. (Non-administrator comment) Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 05:52, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

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KFF Tirana AS → Tirana AS – I had requested this move a few weeks back but I can't seem to find the request any longer. The actual name of the football team is Tirana AS. KFF that's added to the name title is incorrect. I have in my possesion a book from author Florent Hoxha titled "Futbolli Femëror Shqiptar", the only published book of its kind covering the history of Albanian women's football. In page 41, the author gives a brief profile of the club's history. Tirana AS is known as such from 2007 until at least 2021. The club was eventually disbanded. There is speculation it merged into a new club, known as KFF Tirana. I have yet to find a source that confirms this. Throughout the club's 15 year history, they have always been known as Tirana AS. This is reflected in their logo as well. In the 2020–21 table standings, they are still referred to as Tirana AS. Kj1595 (talk) 01:55, 1 July 2024 (UTC) This was a technical move request (permalink). Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 05:52, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Last month at RMT, Ahecht pinged Fjorilda09 to ask about their addition of Tirana AS's statistics to the KFF Tirana page. Several days passed with no response—even now, Fjorilda09 hasn't edited since 29 May 2024. Ahecht, are you still contesting this? Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 03:43, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

This article's title needs to change. Here is further proof as to why: During the 2021–22 season, both KFF Tirana and Tirana AS are listed in the table standings. So, the clubs could not possibly be one of the same. In this article published last year in the Albanian Football Federation's official website, it mentions the club being affiliated or attached to KFF Gramshi. Kj1595 (talk) 20:02, 1 July 2024 (UTC)

@Rotideypoc41352 It was unclear to me at the time as to whether such a change would be controversial to those that had maintained the statistics pages showing them at the same team, so I'll defer judgement to those more familiar with Albanian football. --Ahecht (TALK
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Thanks, Ahecht. Now that I'm looking at the article, though, it looks like there's at least one copy-paste move that happened (ComparePages for reference). I haven't the time to check further, but I am wondering if every time the article now at KFF Gramshi was moved (simplified move history: Tirana AS → KFF Tirana AS → KF Laçi Women → KFF Laçi → KFF Gramshi), if the article was completely rewritten and the old versions simply copied over the redirect from the move without proper attribution. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 17:49, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

I have written the Tirana AS article myself, gathering information from Florent Hoxha's book. This team has been known as Tirana AS from its foundation in 2007 until 2022. That's a span of 16 years. The name is displayed as such in the league standings for each season. This team has no affiliation with KFF Tirana, which is a separate club, part of the larger SK Tirana entity. Kj1595 (talk) 21:15, 2 July 2024 (UTC)

Here is physical evidence showing the name of the team as Tirana AS from the 2019–20 season > https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/qzwwp3d9lrov1u12rg3m6/Photo-Jul-04-2024-1-08-31-AM.jpg?rlkey=nf8d2jc347ygx82rors0xlz9b&dl=0 Kj1595 (talk) 08:12, 4 July 2024 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.