Talk:Timeline of the Syrian civil war (2020)

Latest comment: 3 years ago by Mr.User200 in topic Syrialivemap.

FSB Casualties in February 2020 edit

This information seemed to be removed in edits. I believe it is reliably-sourced (particularly since The Moscow Times has covered it). Please let me know if there is cause for the information to be removed.

  • "4 Russian Special Forces Officers Killed in Syria – Reports". The Moscow Times. February 3, 2020. At least four members of Russia's special forces have been killed in Syria on Saturday, the investigative website Conflict Intelligence Team (CIT), which monitors Russian military activity, has reported.
  • "Four FSB special forces officers reportedly killed in Syria". Meduza. February 3, 2020. Archived from the original on February 3, 2020. The Telegram-based investigative news outlet Baza has reported that four officers from the Special Operations Center of Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) have been killed near Aleppo, Syria [...] Another Telegram channel, The Special Operations Channel, published three names in full: Captain Dmitry Minov, Major Bulat Akhmatyanov, and Lieutenant Vsevolod Trofimov.

PvOberstein (talk) 16:59, 6 February 2020 (UTC)Reply

Please merge the items below edit

Would someone with a little free time merge the following items into the article? Thank you very much in advance. Tradediatalk 23:38, 10 March 2020 (UTC)Reply

January edit

  • January 3
    • United Nations Security Council meets to discuss ongoing fighting around Idlib between Syrian Army and rebel groups.[1]
    • UN states that 300,000 Syrian refugees have had to flee from Idlib due to violence.[2]
  • January 4
    • Turkey states that it has removed 97,000 unregistered Syrian refugees from Istanbul, and sent them to refugee camps outside of Istanbul.[3]
  • January 7
    • Russian President Vladimir Putin visits Syria, meets with Assad.[4]
    • Syrian Army moves heavy artillery into Northwest Syria, north of al-Tamanah and Khan Sheikhoun, to resume offensive against rebel groups in that region.[5]
  • January 25
    • Syrian government forces reached the outskirts of the key rebel-held town of Maarat al-Numan. Over the past two days, Syrian troops captured at least six villages near the strategic town of Maaret al-Numan.[6]

February edit

  • February 15
    • The Turkish government states that President Erdogan spoke to President Trump of the United States, specifically to discuss ways to end the current fighting in Northwestern Syria. On the same day, Erdogan states publicly that Turkey will take action to end the conflict in that region by the end of February, if the conflict has not been resolved.[7]
  • February 16
    • Syrian government forces make major advances in Aleppo province.[8]
  1. ^ No progress seen despite intense UN talks on Syria aid, January 3, 2020.
  2. ^ Nearly 300,000 Syrians displaced from Idlib since mid-December, Security Council hears, UN official website, Jan 3, 2020.
  3. ^ https://www.dw.com/en/turkey-nearly-100000-unregistered-syrians-removed-from-istanbul/a-51888092 Turkey: Nearly 100,000 unregistered Syrians removed from Istanbul. The move is part of a controversial government policy to relocate Syrians from Turkey's largest city. Some were sent to refugee camps outside Istanbul, while NGOs claim that some were deported to conflict zones in Syria.
  4. ^ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/01/putin-meets-assad-rare-syria-visit-iran-tensions-200107150701410.html Putin meets Assad in rare Syria visit amid US-Iran tensions.Surprise visit comes as regional tensions intensify over Syria's ally Iran vowing response to Soleimani's killing. Jan 7, 2020.The two leaders listened to a military presentation by the commander of Russian forces in Syria.
  5. ^ Syrian Army prepares for major Idlib offensive amid Russian-Syrian naval drills: video, By News Desk. January 8, 2020, almasdarnews.com.
  6. ^ https://news.yahoo.com/syrian-troops-reach-outskirts-key-124846286.html Syrian troops reach outskirts of key rebel-held town, Associated Press Associated Press•January 26, 2020
  7. ^ Turkey hits back at Russia claims over Syria's Idlib, VP Oktay says Ankara fulfils its responsibilities in Idlib as Syrian army offensive on rebel-held enclave continues.February 15, 2020.
  8. ^ Syrian forces seize most of Aleppo province, on eve of Turkey-Russia talks, by Suleiman Al-Khalidi, Tom Perry, Tuvan Gumrukcu, February 16, 2020.

Current Syria situation; turning critical edit

I would like to thank everyone who is keeping this set of articles up to date. I am the Lead Coordinator for WikiProject History, and also the founder and lead coordinator for Contemporary History task force. As you all know, the situation in Syria is growing more serious and urgent. I started the task force for contemporary history[precisely to provide a way for Wikipedia to focus on curent issues as a community, and to raise knowledge of events around the globe, as they happen, with the basis of course if the topics are WP:Notable. I have one or two thoughts about this article.

  • Would it be okay to consolidate all timeline articles for 2020 into one article for the whole year? that is more consistent with other timeline articles here. the three month parameter was used only because the conflict was so complex, as far as I can tell. now the conflict itself is winding down; however ironically the current months may bring some of the most critical and deep crises that Syria has seen in decades. perhaps this timeline article should cover the whole year? I am open to all views on this.
  • Please do keep updating this. Wikipedia shines when we reflect the issues that truly affect the world, as long as we are in keeping of course with the five pillars of Wikipedia. I applaud everyone keeping this going.
  • lastly, I encourage everyone to utilize local and regional news outlets where possible. some good sources are rudaw.net, araby.co, arabnews.com, al jazeera, etc etc

I am interested in everyone's views on this. Please feel free to write and to comment as you wish. thanks!!! I am pinging one of the most prominent contributors, just to invite their input. thanks! @Thepharoah17:. --Sm8900 (talk) 19:23, 12 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Ya sure that’s fine to make it one page for the entire year. I made it two pages because I was worried the article was getting too long. However, seeing as this is the most critical phase of the war, making the whole year one article seems to be the most logical choice. Thepharoah17 (talk) 23:33, 12 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

okay, thanks. will do so in the near future. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 04:13, 14 June 2020 (UTC)Reply
@Thepharoah17: this article will be renamed to History of the Syrian Civil War 2020- present. That way, we can retain the narrative format, and extend the article as long as we wish. Is that okay? The other option is to rename this article to Timeline of the Syrian Civil War in 2020. Feel free to let me know whatever is preferred. thanks. --Sm8900 (talk) 15:41, 14 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

Alright, fine, rename it to History of the Syrian Civil War 2020- present, in keeping with the MOS of the other timeline of Syrian civil war articles. Like you said, that way we can extend the article as long as we wish. Thepharoah17 (talk) 17:41, 14 June 2020 (UTC)Reply

History vs. timeline edit

Just curious why all the other articles in this series are named "timeline" with near daily events but 2020-present is "History" of the Syrian civil war. -KaJunl (talk) 12:32, 1 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Good point. I think title should change to put it in line with the others.BobFromBrockley (talk) 17:55, 1 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Reading the talk page further, I think this happened when someone consolidated multiple timelines and/or decided to continue one extended period instead of continuing the trend of a separate timeline for every 3 months. That said, it still seems fairly inconsistent. -KaJunl (talk) 00:37, 2 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Done.Mr.User200 (talk) 01:47, 4 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Syrialivemap. edit

Please stop adding events and/or using syrialivemap as a source for them, its a WP:SPS, instead look for other sources like SOHR, news, etcMr.User200 (talk) 21:36, 6 April 2021 (UTC)Reply