Talk:Tim Bruxner
Latest comment: 13 years ago by Oliver Nouther in topic Various issues
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Various issues edit
First of all, I'd like to commend DustFormsWords for having the initiative to start this article, filling a serious hole in NSW political coverage. However, per WP:STRONGNAT ("Articles on topics with strong ties to a particular English-speaking country should generally use the more common date format for that nation"), I've changed all the dates to day-month-year, since this is how it's written in Australia. I've also removed the unnecessary sentence about names - to say he "held office" under a certain name is ridiculous. All politicians hold office under their birth names. Frickeg (talk) 04:03, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- Turns out you're correct on the dates, thanks for drawing it to my attention. However, I feel the sentence about names is relevant, and it's not true to say all politicians hold office under their birth names (see Bill Stefaniak who has consistently appeared on ballots as Bill, not William). It's information relevant to an encyclopedic understanding of the man (and why he appears under two names) and it's verifiable - it should be in. - DustFormsWords (talk) 04:06, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- It makes no sense. The article, correctly, identifies that he was known as Tim in the first sentence of the article. That he was known publicly by a name other than his Christian name is not remarkable in the least - it only puts him in the company of a few thousand other Australian pollies. Rebecca (talk) 04:08, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- As I said, that's a time-frame thing. Saying he "held office" as James Cairn Bruxner is akin to saying that "his name was James Cairn Bruxner". I have no problem with some information about why he was known as Tim, if anyone has any, but there was no "new" information contained in the sentence and it was redundant; it's already covered in the lead, saying "James Cairn "Tim" Bruxner", as Rebecca said. Frickeg (talk) 04:09, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- All content on Wikipedia must be verifiable. The statement that he was known as Tim needs to be backed up by a source. This is the appropriate way to do it. Feel free to rephrase or move the sentence if it's phrasing or article flow that you're worried by. - DustFormsWords (talk) 04:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- The book People and Politics in Regional New South Wales: 1856 to the 1950s By Jim Hagan refers to JC Bruxner as Tim. --Oliver Nouther (talk) 09:02, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- All content on Wikipedia must be verifiable. The statement that he was known as Tim needs to be backed up by a source. This is the appropriate way to do it. Feel free to rephrase or move the sentence if it's phrasing or article flow that you're worried by. - DustFormsWords (talk) 04:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- As I said, that's a time-frame thing. Saying he "held office" as James Cairn Bruxner is akin to saying that "his name was James Cairn Bruxner". I have no problem with some information about why he was known as Tim, if anyone has any, but there was no "new" information contained in the sentence and it was redundant; it's already covered in the lead, saying "James Cairn "Tim" Bruxner", as Rebecca said. Frickeg (talk) 04:09, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
- It makes no sense. The article, correctly, identifies that he was known as Tim in the first sentence of the article. That he was known publicly by a name other than his Christian name is not remarkable in the least - it only puts him in the company of a few thousand other Australian pollies. Rebecca (talk) 04:08, 17 June 2010 (UTC)