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what do you need help with? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.89.167.44 (talk) 01:36, 12 February 2009 (UTC) (Hey im bored)
Repeats edit
This article contains unnecessary repeats of what crops can be cultivated on these altitudes. (Are the words corn and maize not synonymous?) I think it needs to be cleaned up.
2015-01-03 Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.114.158.174 (talk) 20:25, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
--- tl;dr: Yes, corn and maize are synonymous, and don't let Brits try to tell you otherwise.
In America and Canada (also in Australia, as I just learned from Wiktionary), corn and maize are, yes, synonymous. Stated another way, among well over half of native English speakers, and among anyone from any country who learns any of our many dialects, corn and maize are, yes, absolutely synonymous as words. This includes most of the Anglosphere.
However, in the dear old empire (the British Isles) "corn" refers to "the grain of a cereal grass that is the primary crop of a region" (Webster's definition); therefore, according to Wikipedia tradition, the speech patterns of the vast majority of native Anglophones deserve nothing but a passing mention now that the British have argued against them. Never mind how ridiculous it is to argue that the word "maize" is better because it comes from the Taino instead of the German: if it were really the inventors of corn we were trying to honor by calling it "maize", the Nahuatl word is "cintli" and the Maya call it "ixim". (Of course, the Aztecs didn't invent corn, they just conquered the people who did [or more likely, obtained it through trade like the Maya]. As near as I can find, the Purépecha whose empire blossomed and fell long before the Mexica one... they called it "t'urari", though corn was probably an invention more ancient than the Tarascan state anyway. What the inventors of corn named their creation, we do not know: what is known is that "mahiz" is no more the original word for corn than is "sara" [Quechua], "selu" [Cherokee], "avati" [Guarani], "tunqu" [Aymara], "naadą́ą́ʼ" [Navajo], or "mandaamin" [Ojibwe], or "ová'kemâhaemenôtse" [Cheyenne].) And let's not give any consideration to the fact that corn has more than just historical importance: it has importance to people other than its inventors, importance to the Americans who produce approximately as much of the stuff as China, Brazil, and the EU combined. It's no accident that in America, "corn fed" is a racist way to refer to a rural-born white person. And before anyone sputters something about scientists, it's borderline tautology to take "maize"s use in academic parlance as a justification for why the corn article should be in British dialect: academics revere Britain the way Mexicans revere Mary, both, ultimately, for conquest-related reasons.
In light of all these considerations, it was determined that the most international solution to the problem of how to name a symbolic and economic point of Midwestern pride... the established solution was to ensure that the Wikipedia page about corn reflects the speech patterns of exactly none of the Anglophones with an actual visible stake in the matter (and if you doubt that last point, come visit Iowa, which grows three times as much corn as all of Mexico). Let it never be said that the Brits have passed up an opportunity to use historical imperialism as a justification for continued linguistic imperialism (I assume they do recognize that their "international" ethic has both imperial roots and imperial realizations?). (No, I'm not bitter about this at all. What could have possibly given you that idea?)
Meanwhile, since no one is currently paying attention to this article, I have removed the word "maize". Bam. The words "corn" and "maize" were added simultaneously at 17:43, 2 December 2010. Wikipedia policy states that the first-used dialect is the one that stays: ergo, I have been the first one to put this page into dialect, specifically into American dialect. Let's see how long the Brits and other Wikipedia traditionalists can put up with this. Also, just to be obnoxious, here's an ASCII of the American flag, because if I've learned anything about British history, it's that if you put a flag on something, it becomes yours. The Brits have already emblazoned their culture on our foodstuffs: on topics of tongues, I hold to the standard that it is appropriate to speak openly that which your opponent has already said subtly.
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