Talk:Tiberius Claudius Narcissus

Latest comment: 6 years ago by Gymnophoria in topic Background

Who was scared by Cerberus? edit

In this article it is stated that in the Apocolocyntosis Narcissus is the one who is scared by Cerberus, so different from the white dog he—Narcissus—owned when alive. Interestingly, W. H. D. Rouse in his translation, not only in the 1920 edition available at Gutenberg, but also in the revised 1969/1975 edition, makes Claudius the one who is perturbed by Cerberus (look for the phrase 'trifle perturbed'). In the Latin text, no subject is mentioned here: 'Pusillum perturbatur'. The whole sequence of events, the fact that earlier 'a touch of the gout' was mentioned (which applies to Narcissus), and the fact that immediately afterwards 'he' cried 'Claudius is coming!'--as Narcissus had been told to do--all point to Narcissus. It looks like Rouse was mistaken here, and Narcissus really must be the one who is scared of Cerberus, and who owned a white dog when alive.

Later, I checked a couple of other translations, and they agree that Narcissus was scared by the dog: Wagenvoort (1936) and Russo (5th ed., 1965) simply follow the original here, in not specifying any name, while Robert Graves (in an appendix to Claudius the God) and Waltz (2nd ed., 1961) expressly mention Narcissus. Engelsman 19:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

bad English edit

"When Messalina married Gaius Silius in 48, it was Narcissus who betrayed her with Claudius," When you betray X with Y, you are cheating on your relationship with X by having a relationship with Y. The way this is written, Narcissus had the relationship with Messalina and cheated on her by having one with Claudius. What do you really mean? 108.18.136.147 (talk) 20:28, 3 April 2015 (UTC)Reply

Background edit

Are there any clues to his origin? With a name like Narcissus and that he's obviously educated I'd assume he's Greek, though you never know with Roman names, esp freedmen. Gymnophoria (talk) 09:44, 11 July 2017 (UTC)Reply